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trumad

(41,692 posts)
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 05:18 PM Sep 2015

Hey! Georgia Set to kill a Woman! What a Great Country I live in!!!!!

ATLANTA (AP) — A parole board on Tuesday once again denied clemency for the only woman on Georgia's death row, putting her one step closer to being the first woman executed by the state in seven decades.

Kelly Renee Gissendaner is scheduled to die by injection of pentobarbital at the state prison in Jackson. Gissendaner, 47, was convicted of murder in the February 1997 slaying of her husband. She conspired with her lover, who stabbed Douglas Gissendaner to death.

The Georgia Board of Pardons and Paroles did not give a reason for its denial after it met on Tuesday, saying only that it had carefully considered her request for reconsideration.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/board-denies-clemency-for-only-woman-on-georgias-death-row/ar-AAeUdtM?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=mailsignout

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Hey! Georgia Set to kill a Woman! What a Great Country I live in!!!!! (Original Post) trumad Sep 2015 OP
Gissendaner was convicted in 1998 of recruiting her lover to kill her husband, Doug Gissendaner, 30. saturnsring Sep 2015 #1
So? Your point? trumad Sep 2015 #2
just a little background for anyone who wants it saturnsring Sep 2015 #3
Does that mean you won't say if she deserves it? trumad Sep 2015 #4
it doesnt matter what i think besides i am not familiar with the case saturnsring Sep 2015 #11
I'm against the DP anyway, but I don't get why it can be applied to someone who didn't do the deed. MH1 Sep 2015 #12
I am not in favor of the death penalty but I have more sympathy for Richard Glossip. alphafemale Sep 2015 #5
IMO it should be commuted to LiberalElite Sep 2015 #6
+1000. eom. GGJohn Sep 2015 #7
Does it make a difference to you that it is a woman? brer cat Sep 2015 #8
I agree. ohnoyoudidnt Sep 2015 #15
Equality pintobean Sep 2015 #9
Boom trumad Sep 2015 #13
I doubt that pintobean Sep 2015 #14
I'm opposed to the death penalty for anyone. kiva Sep 2015 #10
The death penalty needs to go away LittleBlue Sep 2015 #16
 

saturnsring

(1,832 posts)
1. Gissendaner was convicted in 1998 of recruiting her lover to kill her husband, Doug Gissendaner, 30.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 07:48 PM
Sep 2015

Gissendaner was convicted in 1998 of recruiting her lover to kill her husband, Doug Gissendaner, 30. Her boyfriend, Gregory Owen, testified against her as part of a plea bargain that landed him a life sentence but spared him from the death penalty.

Prosecutors said Gissendaner, a mother of three from Auburn, wanted her husband dead so she could profit from two $10,000 life insurance policies and the couple's $84,000 house.

She dropped off Owen at her Auburn house before going out with friends on Feb. 7, 1997. Owen surprised 30-year-old Doug Gissendaner and forced him at knifepoint to drive to a remote area in eastern Gwinnett near the Walton County line.

Owen forced the victim to walk 100 yards into the woods and get down on his knees. He beat him in the head with a nightstick, stabbed him in the neck and back several times and left. The wife later helped her boyfriend set the car on fire to destroy evidence.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
12. I'm against the DP anyway, but I don't get why it can be applied to someone who didn't do the deed.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 10:06 PM
Sep 2015

Maybe I'm just thick-headed.

I'll admit I'm not a scholar of DP law - I think it should never be used at all, for a variety of reasons, although in some cases I'll admit I don't shed many tears - but I thought it was supposed to only be used in certain kinds of cases: "heinous" crimes, and killing a police officer, for example.

If you come to me and offer me a million dollars and other inducements to kill a particular person, it is still up to me to choose whether or not to do it, and how to do it (cruelly vs quickly). So doing the deed is still on me. And you didn't do anything "heinous" beyond recruiting someone to murder - you didn't actually DO a "heinous" crime unless you participated in the physical act.

Yeah, this is a big problem I have in both this and the Glossip case. Beyond the basic wrongness of the DP to begin with. And yeah Glossip may very well be innocent. I didn't read the details about this so have no idea how they "proved" that this woman recruited the guy to do the murder, or what is the likelihood of innocence. Still it was on HIM that he actually did it.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
5. I am not in favor of the death penalty but I have more sympathy for Richard Glossip.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 07:57 PM
Sep 2015

Also with a death sentence but most likely innocent.

I don't see a death penalty against a woman to be worse than one against a man.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
6. IMO it should be commuted to
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 08:06 PM
Sep 2015

life without parole, because she has been a model prisoner and completed some kind of theology program which has enabled her to counsel other inmates. She was helping people. Those people probably will be deprived of such help now. Behavior in prison should count for something. If the reverse were true and she was disruptive they'd make sure there were consequences and rightfully so.

brer cat

(24,598 posts)
8. Does it make a difference to you that it is a woman?
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 08:27 PM
Sep 2015

Not trying to pick a fight...I am opposed to DP...just reacting to the wording of your headline.

btw It is way past the scheduled time. I understand they are waiting on a ruling from State Supreme Court on motion to stay.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
15. I agree.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 11:19 PM
Sep 2015

I am also opposed to the DP. I'd rather see killers spend the rest of their lives in jail. But she was convicted of the crime and that was her sentence. I don't see why her gender should matter.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
10. I'm opposed to the death penalty for anyone.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 08:34 PM
Sep 2015

That said, I don't see why it's any more horrible because it's a woman rather than a man about to be killed...unless, of course, that's what your sarcasm smilie is about...in which case, just ignore this.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
16. The death penalty needs to go away
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 11:28 PM
Sep 2015

In this case though, I can't feel sympathy for her. She essentially hired a contract killer and succeeded in the hit.

I think we can oppose the death penalty but still not feel sorry for the monsters on death row. Unless, of course, the person is plausibly innocent. In this case, she isn't.

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