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Umpqua shooter identified as "Conservative Republican" (Original Post) youceyec Oct 2015 OP
This is based on an online-dating profile supposedly linked to his email oberliner Oct 2015 #1
I agree I think this will end with a lot of egg on a lot of "news" organizations faces. Egnever Oct 2015 #8
reliable enough youceyec Oct 2015 #2
nm Egnever Oct 2015 #11
The pictures from the screencap are of the Irish Republican Army and he disliked religion. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Generic Other Oct 2015 #15
Last I heard the IRA hated Thatcher but American conservatives love her. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Generic Other Oct 2015 #17
Yep. You're reaching. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Generic Other Oct 2015 #20
You're not wondering, you're fantasizing. Any rationalization, no matter how contorted, to gain Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #24
His father white, mother African American. 840high Oct 2015 #43
he's from LA/Torrance...recent move to Roseburg blitzen Oct 2015 #23
American conservatives are pro-Israel... malokvale77 Oct 2015 #34
both apply youceyec Oct 2015 #4
I don't understand why anyone TeddyR Oct 2015 #5
Really? nt laundry_queen Oct 2015 #45
Right best we just not pay any attention to detail and wait for the next mass slaughter. Rex Oct 2015 #50
It's not so much 'tagging them as the opposing party' as 'breathing a sigh of semi-relief' Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #51
Crazy man , conservative republican same-same GusBob Oct 2015 #6
HE SAID SO! youceyec Oct 2015 #7
I posted too. Sorry for duplication. Lint Head Oct 2015 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #10
Here's a link, scroll down a bit...His user name was "IronCross"... blitzen Oct 2015 #12
A mixed race Neo-Nazi? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2015 #13
and he had a gripe against the "Black Lives Matter" motto blitzen Oct 2015 #14
Not unheard of. HughBeaumont Oct 2015 #49
You've never been to Southern California I guess. a la izquierda Oct 2015 #58
"Conservative Republican and neo-Nazi..." workinclasszero Oct 2015 #48
I think conservative Christians are saying this Generic Other Oct 2015 #18
Southern Oregon is full of RWNJ gun humpers. nt ErikJ Oct 2015 #21
he's from LA blitzen Oct 2015 #25
The RWNJ from Roseburg that runs against Defazio every time ErikJ Oct 2015 #30
The screencap shows he listed himself as being from LA. Using your "standards" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #26
not saying anything about people from LA... blitzen Oct 2015 #29
I've heard growing up in LA can be tough ErikJ Oct 2015 #32
hey, i'm from Oregon, and I know the type... blitzen Oct 2015 #36
S. Oregon is RW anti-gummint gun crazy environment ErikJ Oct 2015 #38
What does any of that have to do with the shooting? Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2015 #46
I really don't see the difference between whether he was Republican or Democrat. Waldorf Oct 2015 #22
The GOP Guns O' Plenty party. ErikJ Oct 2015 #39
because all we hear is atheist and anti xian JanMichael Oct 2015 #56
I'm not certain that the polital affiliation or views of these shooters is particularly relevant. Snobblevitch Oct 2015 #27
When I see a lone white male teenager, I get scared. nt artislife Oct 2015 #28
Well since the shooter wasn't a white male you would have no reason to fear him, right? nt kelly1mm Oct 2015 #33
I am a Latina, just making a point artislife Oct 2015 #35
He claimed to be white. His father is white. Mom AA. So I guess that makes him AA? nt kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #40
This 'revelation' might prove premature. PatrickforO Oct 2015 #31
A conservative pro IRA atheist arely staircase Oct 2015 #37
I'm having trouble recalling the reporting of ryan_cats Oct 2015 #41
He was black. arely staircase Oct 2015 #42
He was bi-racial. TM99 Oct 2015 #52
He claimed he was a victim of discrimination and appeared to be AA. arely staircase Oct 2015 #54
Conservative Republicans hate true Christians. patsimp Oct 2015 #44
This does not surprise me Gothmog Oct 2015 #47
And law abiding gun owner too until they choose not to be just like so many do YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #53
Well, looky here ryan_cats Oct 2015 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Oct 2015 #57
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
1. This is based on an online-dating profile supposedly linked to his email
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 10:36 PM
Oct 2015

I wouldn't necessarily call this especially reliable information.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
8. I agree I think this will end with a lot of egg on a lot of "news" organizations faces.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 10:42 PM
Oct 2015

I don't think that is the shooter.

on edit

I was wrong it is being confirmed now all over.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
3. The pictures from the screencap are of the Irish Republican Army and he disliked religion.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 10:37 PM
Oct 2015

You sure it's the same kind of Republican?

Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #3)

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
16. Last I heard the IRA hated Thatcher but American conservatives love her.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:01 PM
Oct 2015

Skinheads hate Jews but American conservatives are very pro-Israel. It sounds like you're reaching.

Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #16)

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
19. Yep. You're reaching.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:30 PM
Oct 2015

For starters, the screen image says he's from Los Angeles not redneckistan Oregon.

Second, he also listed himself as mixed race.

That's assuming we don't wake up to hear the reporting was in error.

It's this exact sort of fact free, wild speculation with no purpose except to criminalize The Hated Other bullshit that makes me so cynical. You're exploiting tragedy to paint others according to your prejudices. It's sickening and you ought to be ashamed.

Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #19)

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
24. You're not wondering, you're fantasizing. Any rationalization, no matter how contorted, to gain
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:42 PM
Oct 2015

your prejudged conclusion. It's plain as day and pretty disturbing.

blitzen

(4,572 posts)
23. he's from LA/Torrance...recent move to Roseburg
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:40 PM
Oct 2015

so the "remote Roseburg, Oregon" part of your theory is off-base. But yes, the beliefs aren't coherent, since he seems to have been a self-identified "mixed race" neo-Nazi ("IronCross&quot .

http://heavy.com/news/2015/10/chris-harper-mercer-umpqua-community-college-ucc-roseburg-oregon-shooting-shooter-gunman-dead-eggman-4chan-name-id-identity-photos-twitter-social-media-facebook-youtube/

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
5. I don't understand why anyone
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 10:39 PM
Oct 2015

Tries to tag a mass murderer as a member of the opposing political party.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
50. Right best we just not pay any attention to detail and wait for the next mass slaughter.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 08:58 AM
Oct 2015

Have a sadz that it was a Repuke?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
51. It's not so much 'tagging them as the opposing party' as 'breathing a sigh of semi-relief'
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 09:08 AM
Oct 2015

that while we'll face an onslaught of 'War on Christians' diatribes in the media for the next month or two, at least they won't be able to proclaim that it's 'Democratic terrorists' trying to murder Republicans.

Ie, it gives the hate-speech mongers less to work with.

Response to youceyec (Original post)

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
49. Not unheard of.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 08:52 AM
Oct 2015

Back in my college days we had a guy who was all into WAR (White Aryan Resistance) and listened to white power bands . . . . and he was American Indian.

We called him The Aryan Aztec.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
48. "Conservative Republican and neo-Nazi..."
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 08:44 AM
Oct 2015

Gee couldn't see that coming eh?

But...but the 2nd amendment says that all right wing nazis in Amerika have a God-given right to arm themselves with weapons of mass killing...assault rifles...and body armor to terrorize the whole country because...freedumb???

Yes the killer was wearing body armor and packing 4, count em 4 deadly weapons, one of which was an assault rifle of freedumb to murder as many innocent people as he possibly could, quickly!!!

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
30. The RWNJ from Roseburg that runs against Defazio every time
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:54 PM
Oct 2015

thinks we need to get rid of nuclear waste by sprinkling it from planes over our cities and other crazy ideas including guns for all. The Southern Oregon RWNJ's keeps voting for him.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
26. The screencap shows he listed himself as being from LA. Using your "standards"
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:46 PM
Oct 2015

what does that say about people from LA?

blitzen

(4,572 posts)
29. not saying anything about people from LA...
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:54 PM
Oct 2015

just saying that this particular guy is not the product of a culture of Southern OR gun nuts

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
32. I've heard growing up in LA can be tough
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:58 PM
Oct 2015

so yes that could be big part. But S. Ore probably has highest gun ownership rate in US. Survialalist-Libertarian types have always favored S. Ore.

blitzen

(4,572 posts)
36. hey, i'm from Oregon, and I know the type...
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 12:05 AM
Oct 2015

you're talking about. I just don't think that they had any influence on this guy.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
38. S. Oregon is RW anti-gummint gun crazy environment
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 12:11 AM
Oct 2015

so I wouldnt doubt it made it a lot easier.

JanMichael

(24,885 posts)
56. because all we hear is atheist and anti xian
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 01:28 AM
Oct 2015

sure but also conservative republican.

either say zip or spout it all out.

he suckedin big ways.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
35. I am a Latina, just making a point
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 12:03 AM
Oct 2015

how one minority can paint the whole group, while lots of single white males kill and it just is an individual assault. The rest of the white population doesn't have to answer for it.

PatrickforO

(14,572 posts)
31. This 'revelation' might prove premature.
Thu Oct 1, 2015, 11:58 PM
Oct 2015

As much as I despise the conservative Republicans, even if this guy was one, it doesn't mean that ALL Conservative Republicans are gun wielding maniacs. They suck, granted, but...this guy was clearly mentally ill whatever his political proclivities.

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
41. I'm having trouble recalling the reporting of
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 12:30 AM
Oct 2015

I'm having trouble recalling the reporting of the race of the shooter who killed 2 and wounded 1, live on TV in the first 12 hours.

I wonder why?

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
52. He was bi-racial.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 09:23 AM
Oct 2015

Some bi-racials identify as white, some as black, and others like myself, identify as bi-racial.

Which has he been reported to have self-identified as?

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
54. He claimed he was a victim of discrimination and appeared to be AA.
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 06:10 PM
Oct 2015

I have no idea what box he marked on forms.

 

YabaDabaNoDinoNo

(460 posts)
53. And law abiding gun owner too until they choose not to be just like so many do
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 09:42 AM
Oct 2015

Perhaps the guns talk to the owners like the ring of power talked to its owner and that's what causes them to no longer be law abiding.

Here is something to be proud of as 'mericans we killed more of our own then died in Vietnam!

USA USA USA

At least we are number one at something and we have the gun owners and the NRA to thank for if it were not for you we would not lead the world in gun deaths!

So don't forget to thank the next gun owner you see for keeping up the paranoia and fear that drives them to buy more and more guns to contribute to the body count!


ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
55. Well, looky here
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 11:01 PM
Oct 2015

Well, looky here.
I expected this thread to get a lot of miles out of this, did something change?

Response to ryan_cats (Reply #55)

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