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malaise

(268,977 posts) Fri Oct 2, 2015, 02:58 PM Oct 2015

Cargo Ship from Jacksonville Florida to Puerto Rico with 33 crew members missing

looks like a major victim of Joaquin. Planes flying into hurricane searching for ship

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Cargo Ship from Jacksonville Florida to Puerto Rico with 33 crew members missing (Original Post) malaise Oct 2015 OP

At first I thought you meant that 33 crew members were missing from a ship after it arrived. randome Oct 2015 #1

More here malaise Oct 2015 #7

12 crew rescued from cargo ship (unrelated) HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #2

Looks like Joaquin sprung up on more than one ship - have to wonder why since malaise Oct 2015 #3

They aren't that fast. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #5

Ship's captain made a mistake... Octafish Oct 2015 #4

Lifeboats aren't muvh help in a hurricane malaise Oct 2015 #6

She's not a newer ship as indicated in the tee vee article... Octafish Oct 2015 #10

I wouldn't like to be on that in a Tropical Wave let alone malaise Oct 2015 #11

Wow. From what I remember of Jax, only Mayport (Navy) vessels cleared out... Eleanors38 Oct 2015 #8

Looks so malaise Oct 2015 #9

randome

(34,845 posts)

1. At first I thought you meant that 33 crew members were missing from a ship after it arrived.

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:06 PM

Oct 2015

Would make for an awesome mystery story. Hopefully the ship is still afloat somewhere.
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malaise

(268,977 posts)

7. More here

Reply to randome (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:41 PM

Oct 2015

http://abcnews.go.com/International/33-aboard-missing-cargo-ship-caught-hurricane-joaquin/story?id=34204499
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The Coast Guard says it is searching for a cargo ship with 33 people on board that has gone missing near the Bahamas after it was caught in Hurricane Joaquin.

The U.S.-flagged El Faro left Jacksonville, Florida, en route to Puerto Rico on Tuesday. At 7:20 a.m. Thursday, the coast guard said it received notification that the ship had lost propulsion and had a 15-degree list. There has been no communication with the ship since, according to company that owns the ship, Tote Maritime.

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)

2. 12 crew rescued from cargo ship (unrelated)

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:07 PM

Oct 2015

This is not the 700' container ship off the Bahamas that is missing, but a 200' Bolivian-flagged cargo ship abandoned north of Haiti. I've sailed those waters quite a bit, the seas must be tremendous.
https://gcaptain.com/twelve-rescued-after-abandoning-ship-north-of-haiti-in-hurricane-joaquin/#.Vg7R4Ir3aJI

malaise

(268,977 posts)

3. Looks like Joaquin sprung up on more than one ship - have to wonder why since

Reply to HooptieWagon (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:11 PM

Oct 2015

there was a vanishing Ida and then this was a TD.

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)

5. They aren't that fast.

Reply to malaise (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:18 PM

Oct 2015

Cargo ships travel at about 10-20 knots. The missing ship left Jacksonville when Joaquin was a tropical storm. It intensified pretty rapidly, faster than the ship could reach a safe position.
There's probably a few other ships and yachts in trouble we haven't heard about yet.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)

4. Ship's captain made a mistake...

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:17 PM

Oct 2015

...thought his ship could take the storm. Seems the engines conked out near the worst of it, the eye. AP reports:

About 7:30 a.m. Thursday, watchstanders at the Coast Guard Atlantic Area command center in Portsmouth, Virginia, received an Inmarsat satellite notification stating the El Faro was beset by Hurricane Joaquin, had lost propulsion and had a 15-degree list. The crew reported the ship had previously taken on water, but that all flooding had been contained.

"The concern was they became disabled right in the vicinity of the eye of Joaquin," Coast Guard Capt. Mark Fedor said. "So they were in a very dangerous situation."

Watchstanders at the Coast Guard 7th District command center in Miami launched an HC-130 aircrew out of Clearwater, Florida, to search for the El Faro, which is one of TOTE Maritime Puerto Rico’s two ships and was christened in Jacksonville in 2006.

Coast Guard watchstanders and rescue crews have been unable to reestablish communications with the El Faro crew. Fedor said it's possible the storm destroyed the ship's communications equipment.

SOURCE: http://www.news4jax.com/news/jacksonville-cargo-ship-missing-in-hurricane/35618018

Hope the crew made it into the lifeboats.

malaise

(268,977 posts)

6. Lifeboats aren't muvh help in a hurricane

Reply to Octafish (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:22 PM

Oct 2015

What's more - this fugger is moving very slow - and Cat 3 and Cat 4 are deadly - I hope there are survivors

Octafish

(55,745 posts)

10. She's not a newer ship as indicated in the tee vee article...

Reply to malaise (Reply #6)

Fri Oct 2, 2015, 04:19 PM

Oct 2015

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1588637

MV El Faro was originally built in 1975 and was renamed upon subsequent changes in ownership.

I haven't been able to learn if she was equipped with the latest in lifeboats. From this photo, they look like open boats to me.

malaise

(268,977 posts)

11. I wouldn't like to be on that in a Tropical Wave let alone

Reply to Octafish (Reply #10)

Fri Oct 2, 2015, 04:23 PM

Oct 2015

a Cat 4 hurricane. Damn this is not good

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)

8. Wow. From what I remember of Jax, only Mayport (Navy) vessels cleared out...

Reply to malaise (Original post)

Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:51 PM

Oct 2015

when a TS or hurricane threatened. Unlike merchant ships, they have the speed and strength to avoid and endure heavy seas. Even so, they didn't leave unless the storm was likely to hit the area. Some bad choices made here.

malaise

(268,977 posts)

9. Looks so

Reply to Eleanors38 (Reply #8)

Fri Oct 2, 2015, 03:55 PM

Oct 2015

Real sad

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