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The remarks on Fox News came a week after a gunman entered a community college classroom in Oregon and opened fire on students after asking them about their religion. Mr. Carson said that he would defend his faith at any cost and that if he had been in that classroom he would not have cooperated.
I would say: Hey, guys, everybody attack him! He may shoot me, but he cant get us all,' Mr. Carson, a conservative who has been rising in recent polls, said.
The Oregon gunman killed nine people before taking his own life. An Army veteran who did try to stop him was shot multiple times and remains hospitalized.
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/06/ben-carson-says-he-would-have-been-more-aggressive-against-oregon-gunman/
Yeah good luck with that.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,683 posts)It's so easy to be courageous when it never actually happened to you but you get to blather about it later. It's just as likely he'd have crapped his skivvies.
Initech
(100,068 posts)Chemisse
(30,810 posts)It still makes me laugh to think of it.
Initech
(100,068 posts)red dog 1
(27,797 posts)Didn't he knock over an old lady with a walker as he ran out of the apartment?
randys1
(16,286 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)and would have been just as dead.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)He'd never even gotten his gun out of his holster before he took a head shot or 2
grntuscarora
(1,249 posts)(This guy is seriously, dangerously delusional.)
Johonny
(20,841 posts)Maeve
(42,282 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Over behind that brick wall.
spanone
(135,830 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)And suddenly our field of presidential candidates average intelligence would rise. Although not by much, there would still be plenty of people, republican, pulling the curve down.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Mendocino
(7,488 posts)Rubio would have squirted him with water, Jebby would have sicced Babs on him, Trump would have fired him, Cruz would have hit him over the the head with a Canadian birth certificate, Christie would have thrown him off a bridge, Rand Paul would have flip flopped him, Hucklebery would have thrown a bible at him, Kasich would have bored him to death, Fiorona would have laid him off, Jindal would have.. I don't know.. what does Bobby do anyway? Rick Perry would have done at least three things of which he would have forgotten the third. Santorum would have..uhhh...TMI.
tavernier
(12,383 posts)Superhero in front of a television screen.
Pffffft.
First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...Ben--you win...
dembotoz
(16,802 posts)actually i am reluctant to call him dr dememto
used to listen to his show .....
red dog 1
(27,797 posts)Yupster
(14,308 posts)You hear about people being lined up and shot one at a time by a gunman. I don't get it. Are you not thinking while you are being lined up? I understand you don't want to draw attention to yourself so you remain quiet, but once the first and second person in line are shot in the head, do you just stand there waiting your turn?
Either attack the guy or run. One or the other, but don't just stand there. Her opinion was that she would just stand there. She wouldn't want to make the guy more upset.
A famous example was the Wichita Massacre when the Carr brothers invaded a home in Kansas. They forced five 20 something friends from college to strip naked and go in a closet. Then for the rest of the night they were brought out one and two at a time and beaten with a golf club and sexually assaulted. They were robbed by using their ATM cards to withdraw money, then they were forced into a car (men in the trunk), and driven to a snowy football field, still naked. They knelt in a row while each in turn was shot in the head.
One woman miraculously survived when the bullet deflected off a hair clip, fractured her skull but didn't kill her. She crawled naked to a nearby house to get help. The brothers were identified by DNA evidence. The surviving woman contracted herpes from the attack. The Carr brothers were sentenced to death in 2002, but those sentences have been overturned and are being fought over in appeals. The Supreme Court may hear their case this term.
So the question is if you're a strong 20 something man, kneeling naked in a snowy field fourth in line with your friends and you hear a shot and see the first in line fall over dead, do you kneel there waiting for your turn to be shot in the head?
I guess in this case they were just completely in shock after being tortured for so many hours.
Then you hear about the people who react quickly to these incidents. They often turn out to be military or former military like the guys on the French train.
We need to think of this though. If you are in a classroom and a guy with a gun tells everyone to line up. You need to be thinking what you will do when the first person is shot. Either fight or flee, but don';t just stand there waiting to get shot.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Shock and fear. Police and soldiers don't freeze up as much because they have undergone training.
People are always quick to say what they would do in a certain situation, but the honest truth is that no one knows what they will do until it happens.
Yupster
(14,308 posts)The answer I think is to think about it so if the issue ever comes up, you might be able to react more than you would otherwise.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)He would be the little ass pushing other people in front of himself as shields.
MurrayDelph
(5,294 posts)Ben Carson would crap himself so hard that it would work his head free.
red dog 1
(27,797 posts)I hope & pray that Chris Mintz, the Army vet who tried to stop the gunman, will be OK.