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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:40 AM Oct 2015

Four more carmakers join diesel emissions row

Mercedes-Benz, Honda, Mazda and Mitsubishi have joined the growing list of manufacturers whose diesel cars are known to emit significantly more pollution on the road than in regulatory tests, according to data obtained by the Guardian.


In more realistic on-road tests, some Honda models emitted six times the regulatory limit of NOx pollution while some unnamed 4x4 models had 20 times the NOx limit coming out of their exhaust pipes.

“The issue is a systemic one” across the industry, said Nick Molden, whose company Emissions Analytics tested the cars. The Guardian revealed last week that diesel cars from Renault, Nissan, Hyundai, Citroen, Fiat, Volvo and Jeep all pumped out significantly more NOx in more realistic driving conditions. NOx pollution is at illegal levels in many parts of the UK and is believed to have caused many thousands of premature deaths and billions of pounds in health costs.

All the diesel cars passed the EU’s official lab-based regulatory test (called NEDC), but the test has failed to cut air pollution as governments intended because carmakers designed vehicles that perform better in the lab than on the road. There is no evidence of illegal activity, such as the “defeat devices” used by Volkswagen.

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http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/oct/09/mercedes-honda-mazda-mitsubishi-diesel-emissions-row?CMP=twt_gu

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Four more carmakers join diesel emissions row (Original Post) n2doc Oct 2015 OP
Gee. Whatever happened to good corporate citizenship? Octafish Oct 2015 #1
I said from the beginning that I wonder how many of them are doing the same. hobbit709 Oct 2015 #2
VW dealer told me Mercedes developed technology;sold it to Mni-Cooper,BMW & VW Divernan Oct 2015 #3

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
1. Gee. Whatever happened to good corporate citizenship?
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:46 AM
Oct 2015

Did that also go out with the manufacturing jobs?

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
2. I said from the beginning that I wonder how many of them are doing the same.
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:48 AM
Oct 2015

And I'm willing to bet it's not just the diesels.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
3. VW dealer told me Mercedes developed technology;sold it to Mni-Cooper,BMW & VW
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 12:03 PM
Oct 2015

So he expected a lot more problems to be revealed with cars other than only VW. I'm glad I did not choose a diesel-powered VW when I bought mine 3 years ago.

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