but you probably do.

I put her on par with Jim Jefferies, both insignificant when it comes to the 2A.

I don't know who Jim Jefferies is, but Amy's humor is intelligent --sometimes it goes above people's heads.

but I'm old school, I like the oldtime comedians, Rodney Dangerfield, George Carlin, etc.

George Carlin still cracks me up. His political humor is never untimely...which shows how little progress we have made!

The world lost a great man of comedy when he died.

and who are you?

And who am I?
The same as you, just an anonymous person on the internet disagreeing with you and others.

I can only imagine how ethically convenient it is to label a successful comedian as 'third rate' merely because one disagrees with the predicate or subject of the humor. No doubt, we all of us are compelled to validate our biases in absurd and unsupported ways.

of cognitive dissonance. Gun lovers, gotta love 'em.

I was being honest in my opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.

Less an opinion it seems, and more a simple bias-- as implied by your floating value system of her comedy value being predicated on subject rather than humor.

I'm not a lover of firearms, I'm a lover of all the rights conveyed by the BoR.

Seems the gun nuts have destroyed The Framer's obvious intent. They'll rationalize (lie) anything to achieve their aims. Just my honest opinion.

well regulated meant, back then, well equipped, and the Heller v DC SCOTUS decision put to rest that argument, it ruled that the 2A conferred an individual right to firearm ownership not connected to militia service.

....to achieve your aims. Sad really with the amount of school shootings effected by insane people who built their own personal arsenals for their homes. Hope you're happy with this outcome, many here are not.

No one is happy with these shooting.
And I'm not justifying any thing, I'm stating fact.

I hope your feel feels weren't too bruised, you being armed and all.

Why would my 'feel feels" be bruised?

Contempt? Definitely.

We all still know the motivation behind it

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...and guns. Language warning. And not everything he does routines on is politically correct. But he gets it big time on guns.

Jim Jeffries is actually a pretty funny guy
Here's his bit on guns:

Your opinion of me means nothing to me.
3rd rate? I most certainly do know what the fuck I'm talking about.

"I most certainly do know what the fuck I'm talking about..."

You should indeed maintain that well-spelled allegation... regardless of the truth of the matter.

And to have to take it seriously and to have to cut down the comedian because of course we can't admit someone is funny if they don't agree with us.

....is the same kind of person who sees a grandchild shooting their grandma in the back because of a gun being left out in the backseat of a car as "shit happening".

What the fuck does that sketch have to do with the Second Amendment, the Bill of Rights, and whatever else you are blathering about to cover your gun loving ass in this thread? If you're going to claim that, you might as well whine that any skit lampooning FAUX News and their lies is a backhanded assault on the freedom of the press.....

The fact you can't even laugh at that skit, that it gets under your skin enough to criticize the artist as "third rate" as well as any other comedian who has negative comments on the precious firearms tells me everything I need to know about you. You are so transparent, it's laughable.

It's funny, totally false, but funny.

Are you now flat out denying there are people who a) need a gun with them at all times to the point of obsession and b) people who are ridiculously careless with them to the point we seemingly have a stupid gun injury story, if not three or four, every day in this country?

For something to be funny, it has to ring a bit true somehow, no?

A wonderful progressive woman----caring for her fellow human beings.

Do we really expect you to give a shit about that?

but on the firearm issue, she's clueless.

about gun control and yet you now have (by my count) 17 posts on the subject.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027251676#post2

Are you posting based on emotion?

Hehehe.

No guys, you totally didn't hit a nerve at all. He just feels the need to respond to everything because he's so not affected by the things you're saying.

An example of not hitting a nerve isn't replying with childish quips 10 times in a thread.

"Amy's logic is resonating. Better attack her character instead of her message."

I think this guy thinks he's discovered a brand new, and never before used way to attack ideas, guys. He's so smart. So cool and unnerved.

It didn't, I just expressed my opinion, nothing more, nothing less.

On that theory, my responses must have hit a nerve with you and everyone else who have commented on my posts.

... except for all the armed diners.

have attempted violent crime crimes at this business, and been dissuaded. You may have heard of the one in Ft. Myers where 3 drunk, shirtless blowholes came in caused a fight; at one point slugging a patron who DID NOT fight back, hoping things would cool down as the three left, but within seconds one of the thugs rushes back in as a cohort held the door open, and attacked THE SAME customer. The customer finally drew his legal concealed weapon and shot the attacker. He ran out, but died later. The killing was ruled self-defense under Florida law.

I think thugs and punks attack places like Waffle House because of the late night hours and (importantly) it has some some cash in an economy which is going cashless.

but there are other topics I do comment on.
I don't understand why you're so obsessed on what I focus on, do I get under you skin that badly?
If so, then please, by all means, put me on ignore.

on only gun issues. I get it.

You are not fooling anyone but keep trying.

Except for the firearm issue, I am quite progressive on issues.
Again, why are you so obsessed by what I focus on?

trying to sound important?
Naw, not at all, but if that's what you want to believe, have at it.

as well as manifestly non-productive. I believe the pro-A folks and others here are making progress in that regard. Revealed in all this is the stridently extremist tone of the anti-gun "activists" who must rely on smear and insult, and on the outlook's elitist nature, with calls for DU proprietors to ban not only guns, but discussion of them. (Have you noticed how that happens every time GdD becomes Guns Discussion? I think it is because DU has the strongest pro-2A contingent among the other liberal sites. It doesn't take crap, and responds immediately. But another discussion.)

And fighting gun ownership is a losing cause for dems. Costs us votes.

But as a gun owner and CC license holder i am smart enough to say that this is a violent country and other countries we admire like canada, UK, france have a much liwer murder rate.

The idiots who deserve insults are NRA supporters who finance a right wing group with ted nugent on their board and the idiots who think the government will come after their guns. And the idiots who open carry at obama speeches to show off.

There are plenty of gun nuts, just go to a gun show and see them. But there are also many responsible gun owners. Hard to weed out the idiots.

But the NRA constitutes -4% of gun-owners. That's a huge number in terms of an active interest group, but isn't very representative of gun owners. To me the NRA is a weapon antis used against all gun owners, sorta like gay folks being constantly linked to child molestors (speaking of nuteg).

Hard to believe, but this is a different country from the others. I think it can change positively, but it won't be due to some campaign against a thing (Damn! this country DOES have anthing about prohibition). The thing I fear most is our institutions crumbling to such a degree that the only loud, consistent voice will be for corporate authority, and enough coercion to maintain a third world state. It is why I am for Sanders. He could be the last train out.

I don't think Hillary made any headway with it.

I doubt I could find the clip on Youtube, but shows how little has changed.

I like to comfort myself that someday we'll have a SCOTUS sane and liberal enough to simply quote Justice Burger and strike down in entirety the inanity that the 2^nd Amendment guarantees citizens RKBA, setting us on the path to sane gun laws.

people who have issues are able to gun down dozens in under 30 seconds.

with the guts to stand up against the NRA and the gun lobby!

They are too scared of their own shadow to stop the slaughter of our own school kids by crazed gun humpers.

Warren Burger was no liberal...he was one of the most-conservative intellectuals of the 20^th century...far closer in terms of worldview to Ronald Reagan and William F. Buckley than anybody who could be described as a liberal. It's just that the GOP has gone even more rightward.

Really glad she's doing her bit to get the word out.

Show us your Lark pack.

That was pretty funny. Haven't watched SNL since the 90s, but I heard she killed it last night.

I wanted to see which politician they had on. I was hoping for Bernie, but thought Trump would be funny too. My wife and I talked at dinner on how we would write different skits for different candidates. It was fun writing imaginary skits for Ben Carson.

Anyway, I was really disappointed. The cold open was stupid. The opening monologue was just plain vulgar. I don't know who the woman hosting was (I'm old) but telling stories comparing how she wipes her butt different when she's having a hookup from when she's not anticipating one and how that's different from how she washes babies' butts is not exactly comedy of the most intelligent sort.

Anyway, no Bernie, no Trump, not even a Ben Carson sighting.

I give the show an F which is a shame because Hillary was an A last week.

People LOVE their guns. It's irrational and stupid, a fetish for an object that is designed with nothing more in mind than to kill.

You see it right here all the time. People claim to favor guns because of an erroneous interpretation of the Constitution, when in fact they just lust after guns.

because dumbshit, neoconfederate rat bastard NRA types are roaming around with their guns, threatening to shoot anyone who looks at them cross-eyed.

You know, a well armed militia. Protecting their own paranoia and racism.

NRA is a collection of angry civil war losers.

Here's back at you, you fuckers. You lost, then. You are still losers.

Just lock yourself in a bunker somewhere with your guns. Don't come out. Ever.

You'll be safe there.

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it all and I've heard enough. It's over. There "will" be changes. So all you gun greasers better lock and load.

a threat.

their sides 24/7. It's a threat in that that gun lovers have a perfect storm of backlash coming from the result of NRA butt kissing. There "will" be changes in the law and if that is interpreted as a threat, so be it.

is not a river in Egypt. Critical mass has happened. It's over so get over it. Washington moves slowly and so will changes. There will be more blood soaked NRA rhetoric and innocent death until it does. After the next massacre will come with same the typical responses such as "That's what people were saying after Sandy Hook." I've heard that a dozen times or more. Gunners need a fresh one. That one is getting stale.

your wishful thinking to the reality of recent history.



Spot the trend?

rats ass. It's just a few people and rare. Who cares about a few dead children.

what offends them and what does not.....WTF

Has actually been accompanied by a sharp *reduction* in all gun crime (ie there are more children alive *because* there are more guns in the hands of more responsible people)

*THAT* IS THE PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED

they're PATHETIC

chronic massacres are collateral damage BUT DON'T CALL ME A PANSY!!

Nobody here commits or support massacres. In fact, we believe (supported by evidence) that responsible gun ownership is a deterrent to massacres.

I could argue that the gun controllers who are responsible for the massacres, because, by always screaming ITS TEH GINZZZ, they detract from fresh ideas that could be useful.

Because it shows the depravity, hypocrasy, and moral bankruptcy of those who would try to "protect" us by limiting out freedoms and trampling on our constitutional rights.

In the end, these people have nothing but insults left (and bigoted, anti-gay insults at that). Their arguments have been demolished and they know it.

A decades long reduction in all crime, correlated with an increase in citzen gun ownership.

STOP BELIEVING NRA PROPAGANDA

http://www.thetrace.org/2015/10/lower-crime-rates-not-caused-by-concealed-carry/

No doubt, many half-wits and under-educated idiots believe that twenty dead school children is merely part and parcel of the price we pay. Cost of doing business, so to speak.

never actually challenges the assertion that they are
obsessed with firearms.

They just deflect . . (see above)

Veterans for Peace

at some point they will threaten you and cause harm to sustain their addiction.

Of course, NRA should offer free addiction and mental health services to their members.

But that's like asking a crack dealer to do the same.

We all need to stand up and tell the NRA FUCK YOU.

considering gun violence has been cut in half over the past 20 years. There doesn't seem to be that many gun owners threatening and harming others - even more so when you take away suicides and violent drug gangs.

gun nuts fighting the civil war and turning the US into a killing fields.