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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsABC host destroys Jindal’s ‘no-fly zone’ plan with four simple words: ‘ISIS doesn’t have aircraft'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2&v=4MROr8ePYsYBut how do you train rebels who are there to fight [Syrian President Bashar al-Assad] to suddenly want to fight ISIS? Raddatz asked. Thats the main problem with those Syrian rebels.
Jindal asserted that the U.S. should be arming the Kurds instead of the Syrian rebels. And secondly, the Louisiana governor called for the U.S. to create a no-fly zone working with our Turkish and other allies.
Lets talk about a no-fly zone, Raddatz interrupted. ISIS doesnt have aircraft. So what would that no-fly zone really accomplish? When has it really worked?
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Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Either way, I thought the point was that Assad has planes, and maybe to limit Russian planes as well.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Unlike the US, the Russians are there at the express invitation of the internationally recognized government of Syria. Maybe they should impose a no-fly zone?
malaise
(269,004 posts)and it's pissing off the neo-cons.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)onenote
(42,703 posts)bombing civilians.
Raddatz notes that US planes return from sorties without having dropped their payloads because they don't want to hit civilian targets. Even then, we still manage to do so. The Russians and Syrians have no qualms about who they hit.
malaise
(269,004 posts)I don't remember any complaining about bombing civilians then.
Igel
(35,309 posts)There was also one established in Libya, but fairly quickly it became a free-bombing zone for NATO forces in support of the faction that the West thought represented the majority of the population (viz. French and Italian forces, IIRC, perhaps also British, but with US logistic support; I think the US also loaned some planes but not pilots to other NATO countries for use in Libyan airspace).
NCjack
(10,279 posts)So, for you, it's back to the geopolitics books and briefs.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Cyrano
(15,041 posts)Hard to believe, isn't it? That someone so well educated can be so incredibly dumb.
HeiressofBickworth
(2,682 posts)after all, Ben Carson was a neurosurgeon. Great education, limited thinking ability. Apparently not mutually exclusive.
Turbineguy
(37,331 posts)for non-existing problems.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Will Putin allow that?
chiefdun
(4 posts)Not!
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)chiefdun
(4 posts)30yrs of Service qualifies also
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)erpowers
(9,350 posts)I am not a fan of Bobby Jindal, but I believe Syria has a military that has planes. It seems that a no-fly zone would prevent those planes from being able to drop bombs on people. A no-fly zone may have helped in Libya.
May have helped in Libya? In what way? In thoroughly breaking a formerly stable country?
erpowers
(9,350 posts)The no-fly zone likely helped end the reign of Gaddafi.
In fact, that was what prompted the original calls for a no-fly zone. The bombing of civilians with Syrian barrel bombs.
Now it would be to remove Russian air-support for Assad.
The assumption is always that the Russians would actually go to war if challenged, and if they do so it's the US' fault. Whether or not the US is there first, whether or not the Russians are supporting a dictator in power or an insurgent break-away faction, whether or not the Russians are 25 feet away from US airspace and a US plane.
The only proper thing for the US to do is acknowledge everybody else's supremacy. And accept responsibility if another country's aggression leads to war. Sort of carrying everybody else's burdens and sins. Very martyr-like.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Don't you have a state to finish ruining?