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kpete

(71,993 posts)
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 01:16 PM Oct 2015

ABC host destroys Jindal’s ‘no-fly zone’ plan with four simple words: ‘ISIS doesn’t have aircraft'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=2&v=4MROr8ePYsY

“But how do you train rebels who are there to fight [Syrian President Bashar al-Assad] to suddenly want to fight ISIS?” Raddatz asked. “That’s the main problem with those Syrian rebels.”

Jindal asserted that the U.S. should be arming the Kurds instead of the Syrian rebels. And secondly, the Louisiana governor called for the U.S. to “create a no-fly zone working with our Turkish and other allies.”

“Let’s talk about a no-fly zone,” Raddatz interrupted. “ISIS doesn’t have aircraft. So what would that no-fly zone really accomplish? When has it really worked?”




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ABC host destroys Jindal’s ‘no-fly zone’ plan with four simple words: ‘ISIS doesn’t have aircraft' (Original Post) kpete Oct 2015 OP
Didnt Hilary also support a no fly zone Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #1
The US, which has no right to operate in Syria, should impose a no-fly zone? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #4
And they all know it which is why they can't do a damned thing about it malaise Oct 2015 #17
I thought it was Clinton who'd suggested a no-fly zone? nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #2
The no-fly zone idea is aimed at stopping the Syrians and Russians from onenote Oct 2015 #12
They should have had one in Iraq malaise Oct 2015 #18
There was a long-standing no-fly zone up in and around Kurdistan. Igel Oct 2015 #21
Oh Bobbie, you can't arm Kurds and expect Turks to cooperate with us. They are adamant about that. NCjack Oct 2015 #3
Shut up, Governor Dumbass shenmue Oct 2015 #5
Now, now. Jindall is a Rhodes Scholar Cyrano Oct 2015 #6
Not hard to believe HeiressofBickworth Oct 2015 #10
Republicans can only provide solutions Turbineguy Oct 2015 #7
Will Russian planes get shot down? left-of-center2012 Oct 2015 #8
A great military mind chiefdun Oct 2015 #9
Researching ancestry is a productive hobby. uppityperson Oct 2015 #11
Serving down range/outside the wire qualifies a critique chiefdun Oct 2015 #15
If I was in error of suggesting a hobby, I apologize uppityperson Oct 2015 #19
he's in Army now, mother MisterP Oct 2015 #23
Syrian Military erpowers Oct 2015 #13
? MattSh Oct 2015 #14
Get Rid of Gaddafi erpowers Oct 2015 #16
Yes. Igel Oct 2015 #22
Just go away, Booby. hifiguy Oct 2015 #20
 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
1. Didnt Hilary also support a no fly zone
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 01:25 PM
Oct 2015

Either way, I thought the point was that Assad has planes, and maybe to limit Russian planes as well.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
4. The US, which has no right to operate in Syria, should impose a no-fly zone?
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 01:32 PM
Oct 2015

Unlike the US, the Russians are there at the express invitation of the internationally recognized government of Syria. Maybe they should impose a no-fly zone?

malaise

(269,004 posts)
17. And they all know it which is why they can't do a damned thing about it
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 03:41 PM
Oct 2015

and it's pissing off the neo-cons.

onenote

(42,703 posts)
12. The no-fly zone idea is aimed at stopping the Syrians and Russians from
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 02:31 PM
Oct 2015

bombing civilians.

Raddatz notes that US planes return from sorties without having dropped their payloads because they don't want to hit civilian targets. Even then, we still manage to do so. The Russians and Syrians have no qualms about who they hit.

malaise

(269,004 posts)
18. They should have had one in Iraq
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 03:42 PM
Oct 2015

I don't remember any complaining about bombing civilians then.

Igel

(35,309 posts)
21. There was a long-standing no-fly zone up in and around Kurdistan.
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 08:02 PM
Oct 2015

There was also one established in Libya, but fairly quickly it became a free-bombing zone for NATO forces in support of the faction that the West thought represented the majority of the population (viz. French and Italian forces, IIRC, perhaps also British, but with US logistic support; I think the US also loaned some planes but not pilots to other NATO countries for use in Libyan airspace).

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
3. Oh Bobbie, you can't arm Kurds and expect Turks to cooperate with us. They are adamant about that.
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 01:30 PM
Oct 2015

So, for you, it's back to the geopolitics books and briefs.

Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
6. Now, now. Jindall is a Rhodes Scholar
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 01:42 PM
Oct 2015

Hard to believe, isn't it? That someone so well educated can be so incredibly dumb.

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
10. Not hard to believe
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 02:22 PM
Oct 2015

after all, Ben Carson was a neurosurgeon. Great education, limited thinking ability. Apparently not mutually exclusive.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
13. Syrian Military
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 03:02 PM
Oct 2015

I am not a fan of Bobby Jindal, but I believe Syria has a military that has planes. It seems that a no-fly zone would prevent those planes from being able to drop bombs on people. A no-fly zone may have helped in Libya.

Igel

(35,309 posts)
22. Yes.
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 08:05 PM
Oct 2015

In fact, that was what prompted the original calls for a no-fly zone. The bombing of civilians with Syrian barrel bombs.

Now it would be to remove Russian air-support for Assad.

The assumption is always that the Russians would actually go to war if challenged, and if they do so it's the US' fault. Whether or not the US is there first, whether or not the Russians are supporting a dictator in power or an insurgent break-away faction, whether or not the Russians are 25 feet away from US airspace and a US plane.

The only proper thing for the US to do is acknowledge everybody else's supremacy. And accept responsibility if another country's aggression leads to war. Sort of carrying everybody else's burdens and sins. Very martyr-like.

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