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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 06:41 PM Oct 2015

‘Bring Back Our AMERICAN Traditions!': Parents Flip Out When CT School District Cancels Halloween

‘Bring Back Our AMERICAN Traditions!': Parents Flip Out When CT School District Cancels Halloween Parade

Shools in Milford, Connecticut will not be observing Halloween this year due to a decision by district officials.

According to the Connecticut Post, administrators made the decision due to the high number of students who are not allowed by their parents to participate in school activities centered around the holiday.

Parent Victoria Johannsen told the Post that she received a letter from the principal of her third-grader’s school explaining that the school’s traditional Halloween parade has been canceled.

The letter explained that the decision “arose out of numerous incidents of children being excluded from activities due to religion, cultural beliefs, etc.”

Teachers and students were asked not to dress in costume on Halloween and classroom decorations should be limited to generalized themes of autumn. Furthermore, no candy or other food will be allowed.

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http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/bring-back-our-american-traditions-parents-flip-out-when-ct-school-district-cancels-halloween-parade/
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‘Bring Back Our AMERICAN Traditions!': Parents Flip Out When CT School District Cancels Halloween (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2015 OP
So, obviously, they'll cancel every other holiday as well, since sooner or later they all exclude Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #1
Schools don't have parades or parties for most holidays markpkessinger Oct 2015 #4
Halloween isn't religious Nevernose Oct 2015 #14
'The word Halloween is derived from the term, "All Hallows Eve," elleng Oct 2015 #28
Because they're *children*. And the celebrations are *fun* for the kids. WillowTree Oct 2015 #22
Schools have been having Halloween parties forever, where did you grow up? snooper2 Oct 2015 #29
Because, you know..... A HERETIC I AM Oct 2015 #2
Fuck, alright! Can't wait 'til they can't celebrate Christmas. TransitJohn Oct 2015 #3
Yep, can't get much more diversionary than celebrating Christmas in a school! I say RKP5637 Oct 2015 #5
A sizable chunk of schools already don't... Glassunion Oct 2015 #34
School district officials can be some of the most craven dimwits society has to offer. Throd Oct 2015 #6
First, God made idiots. That was for practice Nevernose Oct 2015 #16
The fun police are at it again, I see. smirkymonkey Oct 2015 #7
"We're not happy unless you're not happy." Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #18
It probably got to be a huge hassle for the schools. femmocrat Oct 2015 #8
what percentage of kids are not allowed ? JI7 Oct 2015 #9
It's in the article... Glassunion Oct 2015 #35
...And they're still going to celebrate a 2000 year old man supposedly rising from the dead? BlueJazz Oct 2015 #10
Oh, but that's different. That TOTALLY happened. Arugula Latte Oct 2015 #37
Do they really still have Easter celebrations in public schools? WillowTree Oct 2015 #38
Ok..It's Easter holidays. We used to when I was in school. Don't know about now. Maybe not BlueJazz Oct 2015 #39
Fundies think Halloween is devil worship or witchcraft worship Person 2713 Oct 2015 #11
oh now OK this is going too far eom LiberalElite Oct 2015 #12
When I was in elementary school starting in the mid-80s we didn't have Halloween celebrations. tammywammy Oct 2015 #13
When will the WAR ON HALLOWEEN end! JCMach1 Oct 2015 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #17
How can a school cancel Halloween? LWolf Oct 2015 #19
Your description of Halloween in an elementary school is spot-on. femmocrat Oct 2015 #33
Halloween is my favorite holiday. SamKnause Oct 2015 #20
NO FUN ALLOWED!!! Adrahil Oct 2015 #21
"Inclusion" should include the majority, too. Too often people forget that these days. WillowTree Oct 2015 #23
I would like to know the religions and cultures of those who felt excluded. smirkymonkey Oct 2015 #24
We always had great Halloween parties in elementary school. yellowcanine Oct 2015 #25
Seperate Religion from school. WestCoastLib Oct 2015 #26
It's rooted in religion Glassunion Oct 2015 #36
That's pretty bizarre. Milford is not what you call diverse. KamaAina Oct 2015 #27
I was perplexed reading Milford Ct too. Mostly liberals, at least socially. KittyWampus Oct 2015 #30
Breaking: Milford Schools Reverse Decision. Parades Will Go KittyWampus Oct 2015 #31
aw, The super realized that the public didn't like stupid decision she made LOL snooper2 Oct 2015 #32

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. So, obviously, they'll cancel every other holiday as well, since sooner or later they all exclude
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 06:49 PM
Oct 2015

a few students here or there?

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
4. Schools don't have parades or parties for most holidays
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 06:54 PM
Oct 2015

The school isn't canceling a holiday, because Halloween isn't a holiday in the calendar of most or probably all public schools. The kids still have to go to school on that day. What they are canceling is a parade. If anything, I have to wonder how people ever thought such celebrations were appropriate in public schools to begin with.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
14. Halloween isn't religious
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:30 PM
Oct 2015

Or at least hasn't been since the Romans conquered the Celts. Why shouldn't elementary kids get to have fun and enjoy their school and their childhood for the occasional day of festivity?

elleng

(131,006 posts)
28. 'The word Halloween is derived from the term, "All Hallows Eve,"
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:20 PM
Oct 2015

which occurred on Oct. 31. "All Saints Day" or "All Hallows Day" was the next Day, Nov. 1st. Therefore, Halloween is the eve of All Saints Day.'

https://carm.org/halloween

It's clearly a religious derivation, kind of like 'Christmas.' Too damn bad folks can't just live with our varied culture, educate their/our children, and allow the kids to PLAY!

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
22. Because they're *children*. And the celebrations are *fun* for the kids.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:25 AM
Oct 2015

Life doesn't have to be all about work and seriousness. We had holdiay celebrations in school when I was a kid and we still had time to learn.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
29. Schools have been having Halloween parties forever, where did you grow up?
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:23 PM
Oct 2015

Oh, now it has to be called a "Fall Party"


My wife is the room mom and I helped put a flyer together for her. I would have loved to make it cool and include a picture like this-




But since party is an Fall Party, (which happens to be on the fucking 30th of the month), I had to find something that wouldn't offend some some parents delicate sensibilities of the mythology they are brain-washing their kid into

So used something like this LOL

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
3. Fuck, alright! Can't wait 'til they can't celebrate Christmas.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 06:51 PM
Oct 2015

Time to stop that state sponsored religion.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
5. Yep, can't get much more diversionary than celebrating Christmas in a school! I say
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 07:00 PM
Oct 2015

stop that crap too!!!

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
34. A sizable chunk of schools already don't...
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:12 PM
Oct 2015

They have Winter holiday stuff instead. Same for Easter is now the Spring holiday.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
16. First, God made idiots. That was for practice
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:32 PM
Oct 2015

Then he made school boards." -- a great American, Mark Twain

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
8. It probably got to be a huge hassle for the schools.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 07:43 PM
Oct 2015

They have to provide an alternative activity for the kids who don't want to dress up and parade around. And...it takes an entire afternoon that could be devoted to prepping for all those standardized tests!

Plenty of small towns still have Halloween parades and daytime trick-or-treating now. Our local mall even provides a Halloween party and trick-or-treating. (Like everything else, it has become overkill.) There are still plenty of things to do for Halloween.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
38. Do they really still have Easter celebrations in public schools?
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 03:35 PM
Oct 2015

I haven't heard about that happening in years.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
11. Fundies think Halloween is devil worship or witchcraft worship
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 07:53 PM
Oct 2015

They are afraid of Devils and witches for real!

Morons ruin it with dumb suspicions

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
13. When I was in elementary school starting in the mid-80s we didn't have Halloween celebrations.
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 08:25 PM
Oct 2015

We were forbidden from wearing Halloween costumes to school. Right after Halloween though, every year they had dress like a literary character day. I didn't always participate in it. If you did dress as a literary character there was a parade you walked in around the school and the teachers judged for best costume individual and team.

That way it's relevant to school than random costumes. I think it's a pretty good idea.

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
19. How can a school cancel Halloween?
Mon Oct 12, 2015, 10:47 PM
Oct 2015

Having taught in a wide range of grade levels in more than one state, I can say that different states, districts, and schools handle holidays differently.

The bottom line, though, is that schools can't cancel Halloween. They can simply make sure that students on campus are focused on academics during school hours.

I can argue, and HAVE argued, all sides of this debate. In practice, I'm flexible.

I can say, though, that as a teacher, I'd prefer that the festivities happen AFTER school. A day spent trying to teach lessons to over-stimulated and over-sugared students is frustrating and draining.

I once taught in a school that stopped the entire day for an all day Halloween extravaganza. Some of us lobbied, and won, replacing it with a harvest festival that was all inclusive...because public education is supposed to be inclusive.

We wore overalls and spent the day reading about, writing about, and doing math with pumpkins, leaves, corn, acorns, apples, etc.; we built scarecrows in each class for a school-wide scarecrow contest, and we went outside for an all-school-on-the-field square dance. It was fun.

I also taught in schools that encouraged costumes, parades, and parties, and spent the day dealing with crying children who destroyed their costume at school before they ever got to go trick-or-treating, over excited children, candy everywhere, and sugar peaks and crashes. And parents who complained that we didn't do enough, and parents who demanded a different room for their children for the day or just kept them home...

At my current school, the PTO used to run a Halloween carnival after school, so that the school day was over and only people who wanted to participate showed up. Games and contests and treats. That was fun, too. I'm not sure why they stopped; I think it was partly the enrollment crash that accompanied the economic crash, and partly power struggles with the revolving principal door.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
33. Your description of Halloween in an elementary school is spot-on.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:01 PM
Oct 2015

I was the itinerant. Lucky me. They always had their Halloween parties before my class, so they could send them to me all wound up, in (partial, usually) costumes, and on a sugar rush. The teachers just wanted to get rid of the kids so they could clean up after their parties. Try teaching a lesson under those circumstances.

Non-participating students used to go home a half-day, but the parents got tired of that. So now the schools have to offer an alternative activity for those students. "Lucky" librarian or whoever got stuck with that duty.

I really like your harvest festival. That seems like the best compromise and it doesn't sacrifice instruction time.

(P.S. I don't miss any of it!)

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
24. I would like to know the religions and cultures of those who felt excluded.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:37 AM
Oct 2015

I am wondering if it is Christian fundamentalists. I have a feeling that it is.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
25. We always had great Halloween parties in elementary school.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:10 PM
Oct 2015

Lots of candy and carbonated orange drink. Yum. Cancelling Halloween in elementary school is just wrong. We had morning and afternoon recess and one after lunch as well. So we ran off the extra sugar we got twice a year. (We had the same kind of party on Valentine's Day).

WestCoastLib

(442 posts)
26. Seperate Religion from school.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:12 PM
Oct 2015

Halloween is a non-religious celebration. Religion should not be able to impose.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
36. It's rooted in religion
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:29 PM
Oct 2015

Halloween, All Hallows' Eve, or All Saints' Eve, is a yearly celebration observed in a number of countries on 31 October, the eve of the Western Christian feast of All Hallows' Day. It initiates the three-day observance of Allhallowtide, the time in the liturgical year dedicated to remembering the dead, including saints (hallows), martyrs, and all the faithful departed believers. Within Allhallowtide, the traditional focus of All Hallows' Eve revolves around the theme of using "humor and ridicule to confront the power of death."

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
27. That's pretty bizarre. Milford is not what you call diverse.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:14 PM
Oct 2015

Nor does it have a particularly large number of fundies.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
32. aw, The super realized that the public didn't like stupid decision she made LOL
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:56 PM
Oct 2015

The Scrooge of Halloween ROFLMAO



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