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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:04 AM Oct 2015

"Nudes are old News" at Playboy

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/13/business/media/nudes-are-old-news-at-playboy.html?_r=0

"Last month, Cory Jones, a top editor at Playboy, went to see its founder Hugh Hefner at the Playboy Mansion.

In a wood-paneled dining room, with Picasso and de Kooning prints on the walls, Mr. Jones nervously presented a radical suggestion: the magazine, a leader of the revolution that helped take sex in America from furtive to ubiquitous, should stop publishing images of naked women.

Mr. Hefner, now 89, but still listed as editor in chief, agreed. As part of a redesign that will be unveiled next March, the print edition of Playboy will still feature women in provocative poses. But they will no longer be fully nude."


A sign of the apocalypse? Or

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Yavin4

(35,445 posts)
11. I'm amazed that its not dead now.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:45 AM
Oct 2015

How do you make money selling something that's freely and abundantly available on your phone?

sir pball

(4,758 posts)
9. I did, they quite seriously used to be one of the best literary magazines out there.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:22 AM
Oct 2015
It’s December 1968 and you grab a mag at the local newsstand. The table of contents includes the following: A quartet of short stories by Alberto Moravia; a symposium on creativity with contributions from Truman Capote, Lawrence Durrell, James T. Farrell, Allen Ginsberg, Le Roi Jones, Arthur Miller, Henry Miller, Norman Podhoretz, Georges Simenon, Isaac Bashevis Singer, William Styron and John Updike; humor pieces from Jean Shepherd and Robert Morley; an article on pacifism in America by Norman Thomas; a piece on how machines will change our lives by Arthur C. Clarke; an essay on “the overheated image” by Marshall McLuhan; contributions from Eric Hoffer and Alan Watts; an article in defense of academic irresponsibility by Leslie Fiedler; a memoir of Hemingway by his son Patrick; Eldridge Cleaver interviewed by Nat Hentoff; a travel piece by the espionage novelist Len Deighton; and the first English translation of a poem by Goethe.


Also Joseph Heller, Gabriel Garcia Marquez, Ian Fleming, Vladmir Nabokov, Kurt Vonnegut, Margaret Atwood, Norman Mailer, Joyce Carol Oates, Truman Capote, Philip Roth, Philip K Dick, and that's probably a tenth of it. And then the interviews, I'm not even gonna start on those. It used to be one of the great American intellectual honors to be in that column.

Of course, I didn't turn my nose up at the nude ladies (really no more obscene than what I can see at the Met, unlike Hustler or Penthouse), but they seemed almost secondary to the writing.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
14. The magazine did a little shark jumping after Hefner's first stroke
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:50 PM
Oct 2015

When he ran the magazine with an iron hand, it was pretty unbeatable. Yeah, Penthouse and Hustler forced him into territory where he didn't belong. The Internet also complicated things. But once he became more of a figurehead and mascot for the magazine, its mojo took a serious trip down south.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
17. There was solid investigative reporting as well.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:26 PM
Oct 2015

I remember a lengthy article about the deep and secret connections between Howard Hughes and Richard Nixon that was the first ever to explore that swampy corner of the Nixon bog. I read it for years - and cover to cover.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
4. Hustler ate their lunch back in the 1980s...
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 07:58 AM
Oct 2015

And there was a long debate about "going pink" because Hustler was doing it and killing them in circulation. Haven't seen the magazine in years so I wonder if they still do show those revealing shots.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
5. Here's some news... there are lots of nekkid pictures on the internet
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 08:36 AM
Oct 2015

FOR FREE.

Sexual objectification has gone techno. Print smut is just not gonna make it anymore.

Javaman

(62,532 posts)
6. playboy officially ended when they closed their clubs.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 09:15 AM
Oct 2015

it's been on life support after that.

I had the opportunity as a young 20 something to go to the Playboy club in Manhattan on the very last night it was open.

I couldn't figure out what all the fuss was about.

It seemed like a throwback to my dads era for sure.

Yavin4

(35,445 posts)
13. They make their money from cable in hotel rooms now.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:47 AM
Oct 2015

The mag has been a money loser for decades now.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
7. NOW who regrets throwing away the seventeen boxes of back issues?
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 09:17 AM
Oct 2015

I bet they are a few issues that are gonna be worth a lot more than your Beannie Babies.

Whiskeytide

(4,462 posts)
8. True story...
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 09:32 AM
Oct 2015

In 1982 I was helping a college friend move out of an old house. There was a locked closet and he'd never been in it. I picked the lock and inside we found several boxes of old Playboy magazines. Probably 80 or more. He gave them to me after check with his landlord who denied any knowledge of them.

A few from the late 50s and a lot from the 60s. It really was cool reading the editorials and letters about the Kennedy assassination, the Vietnam War and the moon landing in "real time". Kind of like a time capsule. I suppose my roommates and I also looked at a picture or two.

I got married. Let one of my roommates "keep them" for me. He moved home and his mother found them and threw out the whole stash. Sigh. Prob worth a small car today!

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
10. the Playboy life style has been replaced with
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 10:36 AM
Oct 2015

gun magazines , muscle magazines , German Boy Racer Car Culture , pimped out travel rags and Repukian Greed attempting to set thing back one hundred years .It was probably the first magazineto build a "life style image " as a market segment .Thus falls Rome .

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