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Response to hobbit709 (Reply #4)

Javaman

(62,532 posts)
5. Yup. it was a hot one yesterday and today is to be hot again. 15 degrees over normal.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 09:07 AM
Oct 2015

weee...

I have to put my miles in today, so not looking forward to that run.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
8. The trouble is that kind of data set
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 09:29 AM
Oct 2015

leads to RWNJs saying there is no problem next time we have a cold snap, and as far as data go, they would be just as secure as your conclusion. AGW of course has a G in it - it's what happens globally that makes or breaks a model. Just like when Boston was buried in snow this winter, some Alaskans were walking around without coats, so it is likely these days that somewhere is seeing cooler temperatures. I was in NC this weekend and while I don't know their climate well, I'm guessing that the dreary 50s I saw on Saturday were below the norm. No doubt some people there were claiming that as proof that the globe is not warming.

TLDR version: local data sets are useless for global climate analysis.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
11. Completely agree
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:29 AM
Oct 2015

You said it better than I would have; but yes - everytime there's a cold snap Republicanoids are out in force mocking "global warming."

Bryant

onenote

(42,744 posts)
13. Except Austin's temperaturs haven't been "consistently" 16 degrees above average
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 11:49 AM
Oct 2015

For the first 11 days of October, the high temperature in Austin has exceeded the average high temperature by an average of 5 degrees. It really does not help when people point to a particular hot (or cold) day as proof of climate change. The record set yesterday in Austin was one degree higher than the previous record, which was set 24 years ago. The record high for each day of the first two weeks of October in Austin is at least 95 degrees and half of those record highs were set at least 75 years ago and none was set more recently than 1991. Also, FWIW, the forecast calls for the temperatures during the latter part of the month to be below average.

Climate change is real. But not understanding the difference between daily weather results and climate change makes convincing people harder.

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
14. Climate change is real but this is a weather event, not proof of climate change.
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 12:02 PM
Oct 2015

One day's weather does not indicate much of anything about climate. It is just as wrong to cite weather as "proof" of climate change as to use weather to discredit climate change.

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
15. Triple digits here
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 01:30 PM
Oct 2015

in L.A. area. And unusually humid. Glad I'm off to northern NM next week where's it in the the low 60s.

DFW

(54,434 posts)
17. I THINK I envy you
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 01:45 PM
Oct 2015

It was about 0° this morning (C), and we had scrape ice off my wife's car before she drove me to the train station. It took 6 hours to get to Sprout City instead of the usual 3.

99°F is sounding pretty good right now.....

NickB79

(19,257 posts)
18. It was 97F in Fargo this weekend, and 88F in International Falls!
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:48 PM
Oct 2015
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/a-sizzling-october-sunday-for-northern-plains

The poster child for this autumn heat wave may be Fargo, ND, where the high on Sunday, October 11, was 97°F. Not only was it Fargo’s hottest day of 2015 thus far, but it was by far the warmest temperature ever observed so late in the year. Nothing so toasty had ever been recorded in Fargo any later than September 22, when the city soared to 101°F in 1936. Even in midsummer, hitting 97°F isn’t all that common in Fargo: from 1990 to 2014, that mark was reached in only 7 of 25 years.

KentuckyWoman

(6,690 posts)
19. Climate change deniers....... ask them why aren't we still in an ice age?
Tue Oct 13, 2015, 02:57 PM
Oct 2015

You'll get a blank stare.

How hard is it to understand the planet is warming naturally but human destruction is accelerating the process so much that most species, including humans, can't adapt fast enough. We risk making ourselves extinct along with a massive number of other species.

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