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roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 04:36 PM Oct 2015

when Ayn Rand couldn't be a bigger slime, this happens

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/14/libertarian_superstar_ayn_rand_defended_genocide_of_savage_native_americans/

Wednesday, Oct 14, 2015 12:01 PM ADT

Libertarian superstar Ayn Rand defended Native American genocide: “Racism didn’t exist in this country until the liberals brought it up”

EXCLUSIVE: New transcript of Rand at West Point in '74 enthusiastically defends extermination of Native Americans
Ben Norton

Ayn Rand is the patron saint of the libertarian Right. Her writings are quoted in a quasi-religious manner by American reactionaries, cited like Biblical codices that offer profound answers to all of life’s complex problems (namely, just “Free the Market”). Yet, despite her impeccable libertarian bona fides, Rand defended the colonization and genocide of what she called the “savage” Native Americans — one of the most authoritarian campaigns of death and suffering ever orchestrated. “Any white person who brings the elements of civilization had the right to take over this continent,” Ayn Rand proclaimed, “and it is great that some people did, and discovered here what they couldn’t do anywhere else in the world and what the Indians, if there are any racist Indians today, do not believe to this day: respect for individual rights.”

Rand made these remarks before the graduating class of the U.S. Military Academy at West Point on March 6, 1974, in a little-known Q&A session. Rand’s comments in this obscure Q&A are appearing in full for the first time, here in Salon.

“Philosophy: Who Needs It” remains one of Ayn Rand’s most popular and influential speeches. The capitalist superstar delivered the talk as a commencement address at West Point 41 years ago. In the definitive collection of Rand’s thoughts on philosophy, Philosophy: Who Needs It, the lecture was chosen as the lead and eponymous essay. This was the last book Rand worked on before she died; that this piece, ergo, was selected as the title and premise of her final work attests to its significance as a cornerstone of her entire worldview.

The Q&A session that followed this talk, however, has gone largely unremembered — and most conveniently for the fervent Rand aficionado, at that. For it is in this largely unknown Q&A that Rand enthusiastically defended the extermination of the indigenous peoples of the Americas. In the Q&A, a man asked Rand:

At the risk of stating an unpopular view, when you were speaking of America, I couldn’t help but think of the cultural genocide of Native Americans, the enslavement of Black men in this country, and the relocation of Japanese-Americans during World War II. How do you account for all of this in your view of America?

(A transcript of Ayn Rand’s full answer is included at the bottom of this article.)

Rand replied insisting that “the issue of racism, or even the persecution of a particular race, is as important as the persecution of individuals.” “If you are concerned with minorities, the smallest minority on Earth is an individual,” she added, before proceeding to blame racism and the mass internment of Japanese-Americans on “liberals.” “Racism didn’t exist in this country until the liberals brought it up,” Rand maintained. And those who defend “racist” affirmative action, she insisted, “are the ones who are institutionalizing racism today.”



What a fucking blight upon mankind.
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when Ayn Rand couldn't be a bigger slime, this happens (Original Post) roguevalley Oct 2015 OP
Oh, go fuck yourself, you evil zombie. shenmue Oct 2015 #1
Oh noes, did she rise from the dead? nt procon Oct 2015 #4
Well said!! Blus4u Oct 2015 #5
There will always be a market for pseudo philosophies that enshrine kicking the weak as a virtue. Marr Oct 2015 #2
Within the field of Philosophy... Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #6
Now it seems that as the planet warms Warpy Oct 2015 #3
Maybe the GOP could elect her Speaker of the House struggle4progress Oct 2015 #7
Some 13% of Americans are hardwired to be "fucking blight." Hortensis Oct 2015 #8
 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
2. There will always be a market for pseudo philosophies that enshrine kicking the weak as a virtue.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 04:54 PM
Oct 2015

It may not attract many, but it will attract a lot of the people who have enough money to promote it.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
6. Within the field of Philosophy...
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 05:02 PM
Oct 2015

...when someone refers to Rand as a "philosopher," you can just see the titanic struggle going on inside not to make finger quotes...

Warpy

(111,359 posts)
3. Now it seems that as the planet warms
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 04:55 PM
Oct 2015

and our profligacy is biting us on the butts we're going to need some of the wisdom from those "savages" if we want to survive.

I would be delighted to see Ayn Rand hit the scrap heap of literary history along with all the "bum fodder" books printed cheaply in the 18th century, long composted after being used as TP in the outhouses of the period. Such usage would be her literary output's finest hours.

struggle4progress

(118,356 posts)
7. Maybe the GOP could elect her Speaker of the House
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 05:36 PM
Oct 2015

All Speakers of the House so far have been alive, but i can't see any explicit requirement in the Constitution that the Speaker of the House be alive

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Some 13% of Americans are hardwired to be "fucking blight."
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 06:04 PM
Oct 2015

Libertarian is a personality type, hopefully countered by environment, but we're in an era in which selfishness is once again glorified. The only moral that matters is personal freedom, although those wanting to portray a "kinder and gentler" libertarianism may have preferred her to sugarcoat the rights of people to pursue personal freedom to such extremes; it gives them a bad name.

She did spend a lot of attention demonstrating the virtue in great selfishness and callousness, including the benefit to society in wiping out "worthless" people. Usually, those were just people like, well, almost all of us here.

The Kochs are and their dad was libertarian by philosophy. Also their admirer Paul Ryan, who's being begged to become second in line to the presidency. By personality too? Seems likely.

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