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kpete

(72,022 posts) Wed Oct 14, 2015, 05:00 PM Oct 2015

Ariz. GOPer: Let's 'Take Guns Away From Blacks As They Are The Main Killers'

A former chairman of the Arizona Republican Party tweeted Tuesday night during the first Democratic presidential debate that guns should be taken away from "blacks" because "they are the main killers."

At one point, debate moderator Anderson Cooper asked the candidates where they stood on the "Black Lives Matter" movement. The question of whether "black lives matter" or "all lives matter" had tripped up some of the candidates before, but on Tuesday night they all said the movement was legitimate.

Former Arizona GOP chair Randy Pullen, who is white, offered his unsolicited take on Twitter:

Randy Pullen
?@RPullen
Yes black lives matter.
The best way to end the slaughter of young black men is to take guns away from blacks as they are the main killers.

https://twitter.com/RPullen/status/654113205480919040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/randy-pullen-democratic-debate-blacks-guns

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Ariz. GOPer: Let's 'Take Guns Away From Blacks As They Are The Main Killers' (Original Post) kpete Oct 2015 OP

This is the belief of mainstream GOP and teaparty. randys1 Oct 2015 #1

Exactly so. Paladin Oct 2015 #3

Untold millions, not thousands. But yes. But here is how they will say it in public when randys1 Oct 2015 #4

Lots of racial dog whistles, as always. (nt) Paladin Oct 2015 #6

Frankly, I don't that one even counts as a dog whistle. Completely unsubtle. (n/t) Jim Lane Oct 2015 #15

Its also the belief of bloomberg. beevul Oct 2015 #11

the responses are pretty funny irisblue Oct 2015 #2

Maybe we should just take guns away from men: they commit about 90% of all murders struggle4progress Oct 2015 #5

This guy certainly sounds like he's a racist. Snobblevitch Oct 2015 #7

Preventing black people having guns would reduce murders. So would taking guns from whites. frizzled Oct 2015 #8

hello, the GOP has killed far more people Skittles Oct 2015 #9

What a fucking piece of shit moron. GGJohn Oct 2015 #10

THIS is the perfect analogy to the "Hitler/gun control/Nazi Germany" stories bullwinkle428 Oct 2015 #12

Doesnt gun control already acheive this Travis_0004 Oct 2015 #13

That is the problem with New York. former9thward Oct 2015 #14

"But Pullen isn't about to emphasize that men are the "main killers" in the country" Liberal_in_LA Oct 2015 #16

Testosterone is a psychoactive substance linked to violence and psychopathic behavior frizzled Oct 2015 #17

Most mass shooters are young black men, obviously YoungDemCA Oct 2015 #18

randys1

(16,286 posts)

1. This is the belief of mainstream GOP and teaparty.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 05:02 PM

Oct 2015

They desperately want to keep their guns, but you can be certain there would have to be rules about those others and theirs.

Paladin

(28,276 posts)

3. Exactly so.

Reply to randys1 (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 05:08 PM

Oct 2015

This guy is articulating the racist underpinning of the GOP's gun policy, which untold thousands of pro-gun militants believe.

randys1

(16,286 posts)

4. Untold millions, not thousands. But yes. But here is how they will say it in public when

Reply to Paladin (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 05:10 PM

Oct 2015

we are watching:

No, I believe everyone has a right to a gun

as long as

and then they will list rules and ideals that in their minds will exclude Black people...

Easy to do, really, when you have a corrupt criminal system and Jim Crow which regulates what Black people can have and where and how.

Paladin

(28,276 posts)

6. Lots of racial dog whistles, as always. (nt)

Reply to randys1 (Reply #4)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 06:16 PM

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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)

15. Frankly, I don't that one even counts as a dog whistle. Completely unsubtle. (n/t)

Reply to Paladin (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 03:56 AM

Oct 2015

beevul

(12,194 posts)

11. Its also the belief of bloomberg.

Reply to randys1 (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 09:44 PM

Oct 2015

Micheal Bloomberg said he wants to disarm urban minorities...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172160362

irisblue

(33,035 posts)

2. the responses are pretty funny

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 05:05 PM

Oct 2015

struggle4progress

(118,356 posts)

5. Maybe we should just take guns away from men: they commit about 90% of all murders

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 05:20 PM

Oct 2015

Of the 14 132 murders reported to the FBI for 2013, the gender of the killer was known in 10 170 cases, the killer being male in 9 085 cases

Snobblevitch

(1,958 posts)

7. This guy certainly sounds like he's a racist.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 06:33 PM

Oct 2015

However, if young people of all races did not engage in criminal behavior with guns, they would have a better chance at a long life.

frizzled

(509 posts)

8. Preventing black people having guns would reduce murders. So would taking guns from whites.

Reply to Snobblevitch (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 06:36 PM

Oct 2015

He's a racist, but statistically he's not wrong.

Skittles

(153,202 posts)

9. hello, the GOP has killed far more people

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 09:21 PM

Oct 2015

what do we do about YOU?

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)

10. What a fucking piece of shit moron.

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 09:25 PM

Oct 2015

And I'm deeply ashamed that this racist waste of O2 is from my beautiful state of Arizona, where the scenery is gorgeous, yet the repukes are ugly.

bullwinkle428

(20,631 posts)

12. THIS is the perfect analogy to the "Hitler/gun control/Nazi Germany" stories

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Wed Oct 14, 2015, 09:50 PM

Oct 2015

that certain Republicans love to flog over and over again.

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)

13. Doesnt gun control already acheive this

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 12:40 AM

Oct 2015

Ever wonder why Donald Trump has a gun permit, and the average citizen doesnt?

He is rich and white.

I guarantee you he had no trouble taking a few days off work, and consulting his lawyers on the permit process, and paying the 100's in fees. I would imagine the sheriff even sped the process up for him.

I would imagine a lot of poor new yorkers dont have that luxury and have no means of self defense.

former9thward

(32,082 posts)

14. That is the problem with New York.

Reply to Travis_0004 (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 01:29 AM

Oct 2015

I have a permit and I am not rich or had to consult with lawyers.

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)

16. "But Pullen isn't about to emphasize that men are the "main killers" in the country"

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 04:07 AM

Oct 2015

Pullen's correct that most young black men are killed by other black people — but then again, most white people are killed by other white people.

Statistics also don't bear out the idea that black people do most of the killing in the United States, either. FBI crime stats show that white people committed 4,849 murders in 2010 while black people committed 5,770 — but the stats also show that 4,224 murders were committed by someone whose race was unknown. The most striking difference in the FBI stats when it comes to murder offenders is the one between men and women.

But Pullen isn't about to emphasize that men are the "main killers" in the country or to suggest — even satirically — that the best way to end the slaughter of Americans in general might be to allow only women (of any race) to own guns.

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/ex-arizona-gop-chairman-randy-pullen-tweets-that-blacks-are-societys-main-killers-and-suggests-stripping-them-of-guns-7744886

frizzled

(509 posts)

17. Testosterone is a psychoactive substance linked to violence and psychopathic behavior

Reply to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 01:20 PM

Oct 2015

If it's not us males' fault that we do stupid violent things, maybe the courts should take that into account in sentencing.

I don't know what else to suggest, though.

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)

18. Most mass shooters are young black men, obviously

Reply to kpete (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2015, 01:22 PM

Oct 2015

This is why I can't take these people seriously.

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