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pstokely

(10,528 posts)
Fri May 25, 2012, 08:51 AM May 2012

Club's ID Policy Angers Some Customers

Source: KOMU

Herdeg wasn't alone. The club's co-managing partner, Matt Istwan, said the club has lost 10 to 15 percent of its business because of a new policy that established a permanent ban list. Istwan said the club bought ID scanners to help detect fake IDs. The carding machines also store basic information like names, dates of birth, driver's license numbers and addresses.

With the new machines, the club can flag driver's licenses for a number of reasons and put them on the permanent ban list. This could happen if a customer was asked to leave or refused service during a previous visit, if any member of a customer's party was asked to leave or refused service or if a customer has a criminal background.

In Herdeg's case, she had been with a group during a previous visit that had caused trouble. Her ID, along with everyone else's in the group, was flagged and the club looked her up on Missouri's Case.net, an online legal database. Herdeg had a misdemeanor for selling alochol to a minor in 2011 and therefore, Herdeg couldn't return to Déjà Vu. Herdeg said she worked at a convenience store and she had checked the minor's ID quickly and made a mistake when she was subtracting the numbers. She said she paid her dues and moved on from the incident.

"She probably was not one of these threats. But to be fair to the system we have in place, to be consistent with what we have in place, to avoid the possibility of a law suit that says we're discriminating against age, religion or sex, we said this is the standards we have in place and unfortunately, she met the standards," said Istwan.

Read more: http://www.komu.com/news/club-s-id-policy-angers-some-customers/

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no_hypocrisy

(46,116 posts)
2. I could at least understand on one level if the policy was mandated by a liability carrier
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:06 AM
May 2012

in order to offer a policy to the club. Nothing about that in the article.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. "she had been with a group during a previous visit that had caused trouble"
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:55 AM
May 2012

I don't see a problem with this.

She was in a group that got kicked out before, and they have no obligation to let her back in.
 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
4. Might be the best thing that ever happens to her
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:03 AM
May 2012

Get her away from the Vu and out to some of the other, much better clubs in town. It amazes me that the Vu has survived for thirty plus years, being a bad dance club, and now transforming itself into a bad comedy club.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
5. Sounds like a prescription for going out of business
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:15 AM
May 2012

I could see a ban on certain people for a certain time, but at some point, banning people for being with other people - and checking IDs like that, is going to inspire people to seek entertainment elsewhere.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
6. Nothing else has driven it out of business, I doubt that this will
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:24 AM
May 2012

It manages to continue because it caters to the dumb sorority and fraternity groups.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. Of which there is yearly a new supply
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:25 AM
May 2012

And "exclusivity" is always a selling point for clubs. Yep, you have a good point there.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
9. I know this club and its clientel well
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:32 AM
May 2012

Living near Columbia and growing up there. It absolutely amazes me what some people will fall for if there is a certain cache about a place. Bad drinks, bad service, bad entertainment, buy hey, it's supposedly the cool place to be

You're right, a new crop of suckers every year, and by the time the old ones figure out that they've been had, hey, they've graduated and moved on.

pstokely

(10,528 posts)
10. They require a $10 credit or debt card cover charge at the Kansas City power and light district
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:33 AM
May 2012

They won't take cash, they think they people they are trying to keep out does not have plastic

http://www.kshb.com/dpp/news/local_news/new-changes-and-the-power-and-light-district-has-people-talking

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
11. Well, first of all, almost any idiot has plastic these days,
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:37 AM
May 2012

They give out credit and debit cards like candy at a parade.

But maybe some enterprising person wanting to make a point will sue, since cash is legally good for all debts public and private.

pstokely

(10,528 posts)
12. Not everyone has plastic, many here don't even have bank accounts
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:42 AM
May 2012

it works to keep out "those people"

obamanut2012

(26,079 posts)
14. The government can't protect your information
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:47 AM
May 2012

No way in hell I would trust a club to protect the info their gadget scans and keeps.

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