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Matthews Praises Trump for Going After Bush on 9/11: Dems Never Had the Stones
by Josh Feldman | 8:44 pm, October 19th, 2015
Chris Matthews opened tonights Hardball by practically applauding Donald Trump for going after George W. Bush over 9/11, something he said Democrats never had the stones to do.
Matthews said Trump finally argued what everyone has been yearning to say for years: Bush didnt keep us safeand 9/11 is a pretty huge reason why. He claimed for years the Bushes and their allies said it just wasnt proper to question whether the administration didnt do its due diligence in keeping the nation safe leading up to 9/11.
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He continued, The Democrats never had the stones to go out and challenge George W because they probably felt that would be un-nice. Trump isnt un-nice, hes willing to be tough.
Video & more:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/matthews-praises-trump-for-going-after-bush-on-911-dems-never-had-the-stones/
leveymg
(36,418 posts)malaise
(269,118 posts)Why didn't he challenge Bushco on this subject until recently. We've discussed this several times on DU.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Back in 2001, it was difficult to tell precisely where Bush's ass ended and Chris Hardball's lips began. Today, he slams Democrats for not having the stones to do what he didn't have the stones to do.
Seriously. Fuck Chris Matthews.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)that it took a buffoon like Trump to call out Bushco on this scam
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Well, some on DU were willing to buck up. Bartcop, Smirking Chimp and a few others, too. Too few, though, when it came to the Democratic leadership; and that's where Tweety hits home.
PS: Paul Wellstone DID oppose these traitors.
underpants
(182,858 posts)who could've maybe sort of brought this point up somewhere in the last 14 years? Anyone? Anything ringing a bell for ya there Chris?
Sanity Claws
(21,851 posts)Whom Tweety is allegedly responsible for getting fired?
underpants
(182,858 posts)Not only did he not bring it up (career protection) he gushingly praised W every chance he got.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)But, now, the BFEE brand is not what it was. Change is in the air. Someone less obviously PNAC-y...
certainot
(9,090 posts)all prominent critics of the iraq attack, bush, and the aftermath were attacked by the rove machine and it was spectacularly effective intimidating msm and its tweeties. got dan rather fired too, and i'd like to see the movie with redford about rather and mapes- limbaugh has been criticizing it defensively.
he and 1000 radio stations rove used to attack rather and all the other critics were the most important part of the attack machine and talk radio is largely why we still waste so much time on benghazi and still deny global warming- not talk radio's little brother fox.
one of these days the left will wake up and stop ignoring the right's best weapon and we'll be able to move forward again.
guys like him might have second thoughts, like now apparently, but the fascists would be a lot less intimidating if americans stopped letting them blast the country with that talk radio PSYOPS all day.
treestar
(82,383 posts)And another in 2002.
Did Tweety, who claims to be a Democrat, say anything like this back in the days after 911? No, he was tingling over Bush, or something. So he is one to talk.
kpete
(72,005 posts)Chief among the cheerleaders was MSNBC's Chris Matthews. On the May 1, 2003, edition of Hardball, Matthews was joined in his effusive praise of Bush by right-wing pundit Ann Coulter and "Democrat" Pat Caddell. Former U.S. Rep. Robert K. Dornan (R-CA) also appeared on the program.:
CADDELL: He looks like a fighter pilot.
MATTHEWS: He looks for real. What is it about the commander in chief role, the hat that he does wear, that makes him -- I mean, he seems like -- he didn't fight in a war, but he looks like he does.
CADDELL: Yes. It's a -- I don't know. You know, it's an internal thing. I don't know if you can put it into words. [...] You can see it with him and the troops, the ease with which he talks to them. I was amazed by that, frankly, because as I said, I was originally appalled, particularly when I heard he was going in an F-18. But -- on there -- but the -- but you know, that was --
MATTHEWS: Look at this guy!
CADDELL: -- was hard not to be moved by their reaction to him and his reaction to them and --
MATTHEWS: You know, Ann --
CADDELL: -- you know, they -- it's a quality. It's an innate quality. It's a real quality.
MATTHEWS: I know. I think you're right.
http://mediamatters.org/research/2006/04/27/mission-accomplished-a-look-back-at-the-medias/135513
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)I can't stand Matthews...he's all over the map...it gives me whiplash.
yardwork
(61,689 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)and make it a BIG one. Grocery-bag sized.
Skittles
(153,171 posts)but Obama told us all we needed to LOOK FORWARD which was a bunch of BULLSHIT
City Lights
(25,171 posts)whathehell
(29,069 posts)We have a winner.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)If anything they were blaming Bill Clinton for not killing Osama Bin Laden, which why 9/11 happened. And don't even get me started on the whole "casket blackout" thing...
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Any Democrat who did indeed have the stones to challenge the official version of events didn't get to be on Chris' program for some reason. Or if they did get on, there was a panel of at least three as counterbalance, as well as the baying spittle of the host to contend with and try to talk over.
It's just a total mystery why nobody ever brought this up before T Rump started yammering.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)How did that work out?
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)Last edited Tue Oct 20, 2015, 03:26 PM - Edit history (1)
And just as important, many others in the media need to the same thing..
leftupnorth
(886 posts)Just cowards. Then I wondered which was worse.
Still haven't comemto a conclusion on that...
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)I had a similar reaction...complicit or cowards...
These days, Democrats seem to work very diligently...to lose...
leftupnorth
(886 posts)I can say that, because I'm from the Mitten. Lol.
marmar
(77,086 posts)In the months following 9/11, he became unwatchable to me.
Zambero
(8,965 posts)It has more to do with capitalizing on very palpable Bush Fatigue, and thereby destroying the credibility of Jeb "My brother kept us safe" Bush. Getting him out of the way once and for all as was done with Walker and Perry, and then moving on to the next target.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)It's all about him and advancing himself.
And America falls for it.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)The Fourth Estate has totally failed the citizens. They allow FOX to spread outright lies without one word of challenge just as they did during the run up to the Iraq war. In this regard Obama also failed us. He refused to investigate an evil administration that cost nearly 5,000 American service people the lives and left tens of thousand devastating injuries that will ultimately cost trillions of dollars. The loss of Iraq civilian lives is staggering. The media still refuses to challenge Cheney and call him out as a damn lying bastard as he goes for station to station spreading his propaganda.
Duval
(4,280 posts)GreatCaesarsGhost
(8,585 posts)Tell us about stones, tweety.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)But I ain't your Monkey Boy Tweet.
Fuck him and his kind.
He provided cover for the bullshit stories, and if true, had Donahue tossed.
Again FUCK OFF Tweety
niyad
(113,498 posts)sept 11 2001? I don't recall ever hearing about you doing so here on du, for example. DID hear an awful lot about that funny feeling in your leg, though.
Paladin
(28,269 posts)"Mission Accomplished" my ass.
niyad
(113,498 posts)Paladin
(28,269 posts)....sacred codpiece and all. That's what I hear from acquaintances, you understand---I've never visited that museum, nor will I ever.
niyad
(113,498 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)MATTHEWS: What do you make of the actual visual that people will see on TV and probably, as you know, as well as I, will remember a lot longer than words spoken tonight? And that's the president looking very much like a jet, you know, a high-flying jet star. A guy who is a jet pilot. Has been in the past when he was younger, obviously. What does that image mean to the American people, a guy who can actually get into a supersonic plane and actually fly in an unpressurized cabin like an actual jet pilot?
[...]
MATTHEWS: Do you think this role, and I want to talk politically [...], the president deserves everything he's doing tonight in terms of his leadership. He won the war. He was an effective commander. Everybody recognizes that, I believe, except a few critics. Do you think he is defining the office of the presidency, at least for this time, as basically that of commander in chief? That [...] if you're going to run against him, you'd better be ready to take [that] away from him.
MATTHEWS: We're proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who's physical, who's not a complicated guy like [former President Bill] Clinton or even like [former Democratic presidential candidates Michael] Dukakis or [Walter] Mondale, all those guys, [George] McGovern. They want a guy who's president. Women like a guy who's president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It's simple. We're not like the Brits. We don't want an indoor prime minister type, or the Danes or the Dutch or the Italians, or a [Russian Federation President Vladimir] Putin. Can you imagine Putin getting elected here? We want a guy as president.
Paladin
(28,269 posts)And Chris Matthews thinks he has standing to lecture Democrats about a lack of "stones" when it comes to Dubya? Fuck that.
Stainless
(718 posts)He was a cheerleader for Bush during the entire fiasco of his presidency.
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)Yet some how she is the front runner, inevitable candidate. Something is very wrong.
librechik
(30,676 posts)does he think he has enough cover to tell the truth now?
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Deadshot
(384 posts)But Matthews is right, not a single Democrat did.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Vinca
(50,300 posts)Efilroft Sul
(3,581 posts)...that when it came time for a joint session of Congress to certify the 2000 presidential election results on January 6, 2001, not one damn Senate Democrat stood with the Congressional Black Caucus. Had just one Senator done so, it would've forced Congress to adjourn, and each house would have had to overcome the CBC's objection by simple majority votes.
Only the CBC had courage then, but most people didn't know it and still don't know it.
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)that Tweety spent years publicly fellating Cheney 'n' the Chimp and talking about the thrill running down his leg?
No?
Then consider it pointed out.