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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKremlin officials admit Russia initially lied about its aims in Syria
Although Russia initially said it intervened in Syria to help defeat ISIS, the campaign has mostly targeted other rebel groups.
And Russian officials have admitted that Moscow's intervention in Syria is focused on bolstering Syrian President Bashar al-Assad with the end goal of giving the outside world a choice between Assad or ISIS, Bloomberg Business reports.
Moscow's intervention, which has consisted of significant arms shipments and a high frequency of airstrikes conducted in coordination with ground assaults by the Assad regime, is aimed at recapturing territory from all rebels including both CIA-backed nationalist rebels and Islamist militias of varying strength and radicalism.
In the West, they talk about moderate opposition, but we so far havent seen any in Syria, General Andrey Kartapolov told the Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper, according to a Bloomberg translation.
Any person who takes up arms and fights the legal authorities, how moderate can he be?
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-russia-is-in-syria-2015-10
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Their view is there are no moderate "rebels", you'll note our media rarely names these "moderate" groups, cause they are Islamists and Jihadi Fanatics.
(October 1, 2015)Pushed to define "other terrorist groups," Lavrov said: "If it looks like a terrorist, if it acts like a terrorist, if it walks like a terrorist, if it fights like a terrorist, it's a terrorist, right?"
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/01/middleeast/russia-syria/
David Petraeus' bright idea: give terrorists weapons to beat terrorists
The latest brilliant plan to curtail Isis in the Middle East? Give more weapons to current members of al-Qaida. The Daily Beast reported that former CIA director David Petraeus, still somehow entrenched in the DC Beltway power circles despite leaking highly classified secrets, is now advocating arming members of the al-Nusra Front in Syria, an offshoot of al-Qaida and a designated terrorist organization. Could there be a more dangerous and crazy idea?
Petraeus was forced to respond on Tuesday, the day after his article provoked a firestorm, telling CNNs Jake Tapper that he doesnt want to arm al-Nusra itself, just some individual fighters, and perhaps some elements, within Nusra. He thinks the US could somehow peel off these fighters and convince to join the much weaker rebel army that al-Nusra recently decimated. Oh okay, then. Hes in favor of arming only the moderate members of al-Qaida: that sounds so much better.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/02/david-petraeus-bright-idea-give-terrorists-weapons-to-beat-isis
Who created ISIS and why?
Whats our end game in Syria?
The end of the Assad regime would sever Hezbollahs lifeline to Iran, eliminate a long-standing threat to Israel, bolster Lebanons sovereignty and independence, and inflict a strategic defeat on the Iranian regime. It would be a geopolitical success of the first order. More than all of the compelling moral and humanitarian reasons, this is why Assad cannot be allowed to succeed and remain in power: We have a clear national security interest in his defeat. And that alone should incline us to tolerate a large degree of risk in order to see that this goal is achieved.
http://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2012/3/post-e460be36-c488-e7de-8c38-64c3751adfce
uhnope
(6,419 posts)You write "who created Isis and why?" with only a single isolated quote by Wesley Clark to support the far out CT. Then you put Israel in bold letters in the next section. I googled it and found the same theory on David Duke's website, you know, the KKK guy. So are you floating yet another "Jews Control Everything" type of CT? Or what? Please tell us more. But don't you feel a little bit queasy doing it to support the Russian gov, given their notorious history of anti-Semiticism?
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)uhnope
(6,419 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)They are going after all armed opponents of the Assad regime.
And it makes cynical political sense to eliminate everyone but ISIS first.
Not that I feel to bad if they go after the Army of Conquest of Al Nusra or any of the other thousands of Islamist rebels.
msongs
(67,401 posts)MattSh
(3,714 posts)Only exceptional countries are allowed to lie...
But it is Business Insider that's claiming a lie was told, so take that with a massive grain of salt.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Come on, look at that face!
Would that face lie to you?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)ALL governments lie, it's inherent to the system. Some lie more than others is the only difference.
Cayenne
(480 posts)They are doing exactly what they said they were going to do; bomb bad guys. They never said they would be a party to 'regime change'.