evidently are supposed to vote for another corporate candidate.
Hopefully Elizabeth Warren can at least bring this to everyone's attention.

I think she might be better able to get her message out as a VP nonimee alongside
Bernie. .. and not just her message, but have more clout to put a stop to this shit
on Wall. St. as VP

I know she's a force in the Senate too. But she took office in 2013, so really wouldn't
need to let go of her Senate seat to run as Bernie's VP. I think her and Bernie would
make such an awesome team, and she's so focused on the Wall St. corruption and
knowledgable about it, and conversant with the public .. why couldn't that be her
primary role as VP?

I think they'd be an unbeatable ticket against ANY of the goons in GOP primary.

If for now Warren would endorse Bernie it would send his numbers out of sight in the plus column.

And one other thing is the fact that since Hillary is a corporate Wall St sponsored candidate with her in the White House it would be Obama handing her the keys from one corporatist to another.

It's disgusting that he appears to be selling out now that his time is almost done....

She could stay in the Senate, but if she came out for Bernie in a vocal and forceful way, making appearances wth him at talks and ralllies, and going on the MSM proprams to catapult him, it would have an enormous impact. It would also help her prepare for a national campaign of her own, perhaps in 2020.

But I agree, Warren is a huge wildcard, and I'm a little surprisedd she hasn't already joined the effort.

it would at least go a long ways toward dispelling the canard that "none of Sander's Congressional colleagues support him."

watching to see if Bernie has a real chance, not wanting to be out of favor with a possible Clinton administration. I suspect there's a lot of that kind of thinking among Democratic Senators and congress critters. If Bernie gets much closer nationally we might see a Bernami sweep right over the Clintons as people will no longer be afraid to support him.

Love your tag line, by the way.

exactly what you get. Why did anyone ever expect otherwise?

This does reek.

with Reagan as his idol. Is anyone surprised after TPP that he's still promoting the interests of big business over those of the workers? Really? Now that it's near the end of his term, he is free to show his true interests, and it's not pro worker or pro middle class.

Because the charge of racism will be their to greet us.
What better way to get us to accept Conservative plans then to get a black man to do it...and next it will be a woman and we will accept that shit too because we don't want to be charged with misogyny.

They know how to play us..and we fall for it every time.

only Nixon could go to China.

And only a Democrat, especially a black Democrat, could finalize the handover of the country to the feudal oligarchs and plutocrats. He will be rewarded even more handsomely than Clinton was.

be well rewarded. He's been cementing that position for his after-presidency for a while now.

for another Reagan Democrat and that included Hillary.

Guess who they support?

...the Hillarians!


The revolving door between government and business needs to be dismantled.
Pentagon - defense contractors
SEC -wall street
FDA - big pharma

and all of the rest.


Peace

silly me.

But some of us are idealists...and hope springs eternal.

I’m FUCKING ANGRY now.

He's obviously been busy searching for those damned walking shoes...

would Clinton.

First - he appointed Geithner and HRH before he was even inaugurated

Second - he made sure he appointed an AG who would and did cover for the banksters in every way possible

Third - he let Big Pharma and Big Insurance dictate the terms of the ACA in large part.

Fourth -- TPP/TTIP, need I say more

Fifth - soldiers staying in Afghanistan/drone war assuming unprecedented and very secret proportions. War Then, War Now, War Forever.

Sicth - THIS pile of bankster-enabling horseshit.

We were screwed, blued and tattooed by this man.

Nuff said. Rubin is as unethical and unscrupulous a greedhead as has ever walked the earth.

A Trojan Horse if ever one there was, this man Obama. And we all fell for it.

Never again.

some people root for the laundry and nothing more.

I would not vote for him for dog-catcher in a two-dog town at this point. And I will NEVER, EVER vote for another Repig-lite corporate Dem again as long as I live. And that means you, HRH.

I figured this move would have come sooner.

he doesn't need our votes and he knows where his bread gets buttered

This type of corporate protection is clear evidence of the control they have over our politicians through the corrupting practice of campaign donations/Super Pacs, and the Revolving Door.

This is why we have to have a political revolution and fight for Publicly Funded Elections! We will either live under corporate control and lose all of our rights and freedoms, or we rise up while we still can to oppose their bought off politicians, judges, and media!

I don't understand the defeatist among us who flock to Hillary thinking she has OUR BACKS! They give him no chance and don't seem to see the problem. The Tea Party is not the only group that falls for the corporate propaganda. Our country has been taken over while we were asleep at the wheel. This has been a gradual, patient attack, slowly eroding the regulatory agencies, brain washing the populous to demonize trial lawyers who protect against corporate excesses and government itself. They even demonized our social safetynet while entangling us in wars for profit.

We MUST get Bernie elected!!!

Excellent and extremely important post.

We seriously, seriously NEED a candidate who will STOP these DLC/Third Way Democrats who have let themselves be bought by Wall Streeters and billionaires who have looked the other way and forgotten about "we the people!"

We MUST follow the example of what Canada has just in an effort to STOP this practice of Austerity that has almost ruined a once great country!! It's my belief that so much of this started back in 1980 with the presence of Ronnie Rayguns who said at the time "I didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left me!" I thought it was bull shit back then and we now have PROOF that his trickle down" theory never happened. I didn't even get trickled on, I got PISSED on, if not actually hosed on by the shower of cold water thrown in my face!

Ronnie Rayguns, THEIR GOD may not have actually been able to see the future to see what his statement began, but then his DE-REGULATION policy most certainly has been extremely detrimental to the mess we find ourselves in today. I suppose some things may have needed deregulation, I can't think of anything right now. But I've always felt that if a governmental program wasn't working as it should, then people should have been hired to find and make changes to fix the mess. Seems to me that would have cost less in the long run as opposed to letting recipients suffer because of the bad apples!

Right after Obama was elected and said we should look forward as opposed to holding people accountable for what was in FACT out right treason I was shocked. Has he gotten some good things done, he has but I began to see he was more willing to play a compromise game with the other side who clearly stated they wanted him gone. Is it really possible he NEVER heard of the meeting the head honchos had on the day of his inauguration? Is it possible he didn't take it seriously and felt it would never work? I doubt we'll never know, but I felt his intelligence should have made him to at least "be careful" and he didn't do it.

THAT HURT me as a Democrat. But his closeness to Jamie Dimon and the likes of Robert Rubin may not have been known at the time. Ok, getting long here and too much for others to take time to read. Just a few things I wanted to add.

Nixswine's former AG, said, as they led him off to prison,

"This country is going to move so far to the right, you won't recognize it".

He was dead on.

Thanks a lot, will look that up.

if I vote for any of them. I refuse to continue enabling the destruction of this country by voting for ANY corporatist no matter WHAT laundry they are wearing.

I think it was back then that I scented a very different Clinton. Always knew he was more moderate but DID have the feeling he would be good for the country. Not so much now. Is he the spark that lights up Democrats everywhere he go, yes! He's considered a very successful POTUS, but by no means anything OTHER than what I kind of think is the "father of the DLC" and it's been hard to accept. Bill Clinton is Mr. Charisma to most Democrats, and he can unite the Party more than any President I've known. Even MORE than Obama as much as he can relate and engage people with his speeches and his one liners. BUT he ISN'T who so many thought he was or would be.

My first choice for President back in 2008 was neither Obama OR Clinton, because even though I got out and did work hard to elect him I always felt he was very moderate. A long time ago he elevated a man named Rahm Emmanuel as part of his cabinet, and it was then I began to groan. Rahm Emmanuel is a man that I have never respected in any way and never trusted either. I could get more graphic about my feelings but won't. I simply could NOT understand Obama's decision regarding him. But many didn't know of Obama's connection with Robert Rubin and Jamie Dimon and when it was bail out time my heart sank. America WE GOT SCREWED ROYALLY in every which way. The relationship still exists.

So NOW this Democratic Party is going about the business of ELEVATING ANOTHER candidate and selling to this Democratic Party another candidate who has been cut from the same cloth! AND they're doing it in the most blatant way too. WE have proof of the history behind each one of them and what has happened, and YET the Party can almost stamp SOLD across Hillary's breast. They ARE NOT working for us!! If we can just open our eyes and look in the mirror it's ALL there to be seen but somehow it's "here we go again" and we're supposed to do what most of us have always done. We buy the product.

THIS time it's as clear as the nose on our face that we have a choice with Bernie. He has roused a sleeping electorate and yet our very own Democratic Party is working overtime to make sure we CAN'T buy this other product.

I've been a Democrat all my life, but I really can't say I will stay one after this election! I'm so very SERIOUSLY FED UP and I do let my fellow Democrats know how I feel.

For me it's now or NEVER!

parrot the Bernie can't win so we better vote for Hillary crap. I'm sick of hearing that.

mantra for so many elections. It's brings to mind that saying of "doing the same thing over & over and expecting different results!"

I've gotten many mail requests from my state Democratic Party and National Democratic asking for donations and to renew my membership. I have not responded to any of them. BUT, last week I finally got a request by mail asking me WHY I haven't renewed and what they can do to solve this problem. This is one piece of mail I will ANSWER, but since there's not much space to explain I'll just type up a letter with a few of my reasons. Won't make it long but only hit high points. My penmanship is a little script like and takes up more space, so I decided to paste my reply this way.

I HAVE donated to Bernie 4 times already and am not buying the statements of how they need money to donate to candidates who need help. I believe they do have ACCESS to millions that we don't know about and I now believe they will only give money to those candidates THEY want to get elected. Which may not be candidates that "we the people" want. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz seems to be much more like a Repuke than even a DINO! I live in FL and there have been multiple stories written about her so it's IMPOSSIBLE for me to find her credible in any way. She has always been close to the Balart brothers and Ross-Leyton (sp) from her area and other people that are like minded.

I'm not happy having to admit this stuff, but I believe she was hand picked for DNC leader by TPTB in DNC. And one of the biggest slaps in the face is the Howard Dean & Barnie Frank support for Hillary that get so much exposure! But what further bothers me is that almost ALL the members in Congress seem to have gotten some sort of message that Bernie should be stopped at all costs! There are a few who've gone rogue (Palin???) but very few. This IS NOT Democracy, it's a cabal!

So it does seem we are now living under an Oligarchic system of government. JMHO!

Republicans put their biggest fears while liberals put their greatest hopes into him.


And both were wrong.

Clinton had higher taxes on the rich than Obama does. He passed fmla into law which did nothing for big corps but did really help a lot of people retain their jobs. Obama passed a health care law which helped low income people only in Blue states, but not in red states. Of course, it was more of a boon to big insurance than it was to lower income folks. Clinton didn't perpetuate wars while Obama now plans on keeping 10,000 troops in Afghanistan.

but he's since apologized

Where is the promise that the premiums would decrease as each year went by? Many are moving downward to a Bronze Plan that does not pay for any advanced blood testing like for the genetic testing that must be given for a doctor to prescribe the correct medicine for a problem with the heart. No medicine and one is not able to work-which means one is removed from Obamacare/Hillarycare. This method works very well for the age group 55 to 66; those that are more expensive to insure. Red States have this way of getting you off Obamacare/Hillarycare.

Insurance companies get rid of those needing healthcare the most and go up on the cost of premiums every year-what a corporate Utopia!

In 2012-13, if the insurance companies spent less than 85% of their incomes on patient healthcare, then they and to send their insured a check or refund part of the premium.

I think that Bernie needs to start telling us why he was an Independent (based on mistakes of Obama) along with why he is a democratic socialist.

Sorry to have to use this link but it shows that Obama knew better than to remove the public option. IMO, only a corporatist would do such a thing.

http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/Americas/2009/July/Revisiting-HillaryCare--What-It-Proposed-and-Why-It-Failed.html

"That's Texas!"

I've been using that expression too since I recently read it on here, love it.

Obama continues to sellout America and he will until he leaves office I can't believe I voted for him twice.

Of course you did! What were the alternatives????



But of course now, in the primaries, we HAVE an alternative to corpro-dems.

And, handcuffed. We won't even have recourse.

I totally agree....if the country has to go down in flames before the citizens wake up,,,,it's better to do it faster rather than slower.

Even after his rightward lurch after being elected, even now, after his pushing of the TPP and now this, I still talk to some that think that even now this late in the game, he's still pulling some rope-a-dope moves with the GOP and his corporate masters and will go full-on populist....soon.

dimensional chess with the GOP and his corporate paymasters, is more likely.

They've been had.

In Chess, Pawns are sacrificed to protect the Royalty.

Its really cool, unless you are a Pawn like the 99% of us who have to work for a living.

Obama has been one big fucking disappointment.

F him and his corporate pals.

Hillary would be way worse than Obama. I can think of no better reason to vote for Bernie,
and support him 100%.

BERNIE!!!!! Because Fuck This Shit!!!!

Heaven forbid.

Since Hilary is generally to the right of Obama regarding the financial sector, it'll be interesting to hear her slant on this. Or at least her slant pre-election.

She's gonna march on down to Wall Street and demand that they stop speculating and engaging in bad behavior.

Has it worked? Who knows.

she will say "halt" again. And they will give her a big bag of money to forget the whole thing and she will go away, never to yip again.

they would cut off the spigot for her campaign money.

she's just giving us lip service.

WTF?

Takes time but I'm sure we'll eventually hear why it's a good thing and how the rest of us are unqualified to even consider the issue.

HE's OLD! HE HATES BLACK PEOPLE! HE HAS A FUNNY ACCENT!

AND HE'S A JEWISH SOCIALIST JUST LIKE KARL MARX!!!!

Unless we're all expected to join the rightward movement and start pretending shit like this is a good thing

In a nutshell, corporatist administrators working for our corporatist President are acting like corporatists by proposing deregulation previously proposed by administrators of the corporatist junta led by a corporatist usurper that preceded our current corporatist President.

Isn't democracy wonderful? We can have any leader we want as long as he's a corporatist.

We can have any leader we want as long as he/she's a corporatist.

The reason I don't use the form he/she or s/he is because I don't write words I can't pronounce that look like they came our of a business letter or legal document.

However, the establishment designated successor is a she. She will be coronated president in Philadelphia next summer. I don't know if there is any truth to the rumor that those two august pillars of the establishment, Legs Dimon and Pretty Boy Lloyd, will be on hand to place the crown on her head.

The chief architect:

Thanks for the heads-up, 99th_Monkey!

They see the big money waiting for them after they retire, if they just play ball…..

I posted about this a couple of months ago, and now i can't readily find the links,
but trust me, they already ARE solidly IN the 1%, they don't just "represent" the
1%.

But your point is well-taken anyway, in that they are obviously not finished raking
in the dough, makes me wonder when "enough will be enough" for them.

PS - I'm planning to post an OP within a couple of days about this^ once i find the
links in my posts, and/or on the inter webs that document their income percentage/
bracket.

Remember, HRC claims they were 'dead broke'……

In any case they've made well over 100 million in the last decade so yeas, they are comfortably well off. Although enough is never enough for some.

I was reading about two Canadian banks last night...CIBC and TD...between them, 'Ole Hills got well over a half million for flying up on a private jet to spend a few hours giving a speech or two...she made several trips and followed the same protocol...of course, the audiences she spoke to were selected by the banks...Bubba Billy also got his mitts on some cash from the same sources...lots more to read about our Canadian banks' support for money-grubbing American politicians...Oh, yes...both banks support the Keystone pipeline...

No doubt the Clintons are members of the 1%...

Being a member of an elite social group can be very important to people.

That's WTF is going on here.

Incidentally her husband is currently working for a white shoe law firm representing corporate clients affected by the ruling. He walked back through the revolving door from the SEC to collect glittering prizes while his wife continues to run the agency.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-harrington/the-revolving-door-at-the-sec_b_6785568.html

I wonder if this is what they meant. I don't expect many to show up in this thread.

I am ready .

I have absolutely nothing left to lose anymore. Fuck capitalism, and fuck capitalists, especially banksters.

you are too goddamn dumb to breathe.

We were had, chumped, snookered, rooked and pantsed in the middle of the schoolyard by both Obama and Bubba.

Wall $treet, Wall $treet uber alles!
Uber alles in die Welt!

Jebus, WHY did I vote for this guy? Twice? TTP and now this.

NO MORE CORPODEMS or TURD WAY. EVER!

ETA, The thundering silence from the Usual Suspects among the Hillionaires and Obama fanboys/girls in this thread is rather remarkable, innit?

I fell in love with the campaigning liberal Obama and ended up with a president who claims to be a moderate RepubliCON and a free trade true believer.

He never closed GITMO and is now going to put the US firmly on the side of fascism with the signing of the TPP. By the way, I remeber the initials for that free trade scheme as Trade Pee Pee.

In '08 I first wanted Edwards because it seemed he was the only one concerned about poverty, etc. Okay, in retrospect, he was a scumbag. Then I was for Obama because he was the better choice over Hillary. I thought maybe if he was elected he would lean toward his community organizer/constitutional expert side over his corporatist side. For the most part, I've been disappointed. I can only imagine how terribly disappointing and corporate-Wall St. friendly Hillary will be if elected (which is doubtful because she inspires next to no enthusiasm).

Go Bernie!

She would be much, MUCH worse. The Bush Crime Family considers her to be an honorary member. Let that bounce around in the ol' brainbox for a while and ponder what it means.

if he goes along with it to everyone who worked 2 times to get him elected

Is there a futures market for peas?

they are very like minded, but maybe she's waiting or doesn't want to clog up the drain. We're ALL assuming that she's a Bernie supporter, I can't say I know that for sure. It would be a HUGE boost for him as we all probably agree, yet it's MUM so far. I've seen clips where she's made some semi-negative comments about Hillary and her connections to Wall Street, but it was some time ago.

I can't see her supporting Hillary because of their opposing positions, but the reasons are hers to explain. Still I can WISH she'll make a move in 6 months or so. I can't support how our Democratic Party has failed the bulk of it's own people, and not just because of Bernie. The list IS LONG!!

I've said this so many times now, living in FL I have to remain a Democrat to vote in the Primary, but now more than ever am considering changing to NPA when this election is over. They've used me for the very last time!!!

Seriously. I mean WTF?

Such bullshit indeed.

for a good long while.