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applegrove

(118,654 posts) Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:22 PM Oct 2015

10 Freedom Caucus Members Publicly Reject Paul Ryan, Enough To Doom His Candidacy For Speaker

10 Freedom Caucus Members Publicly Reject Paul Ryan, Enough To Doom His Candidacy For Speaker

by Judd Legum at Think Progress

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/10/21/3714807/9-freedom-caucus-members-publicly-reject-paul-ryan-enough-to-doom-his-candidacy-for-speaker/

"SNIP...............

That won’t be an issue for Ryan with one big exception, the Freedom Caucus. The Freedom Caucus is comprised of about 40 hard-line members who want the House Republicans to be much more aggressive. They are the also the group who forced out Speaker John Boehner by threatening a Motion To Vacate The Chair.

According to Freedom Caucus rules, you need the support of four-fifths of the caucus to secure their endorsement. That means anyone who is opposed by more than 8 members will not be able to be endorsed by the group.

Already 10 Freedom Caucus members have publicly expressed their opposition to Ryan or his key demand, which is enough to sink his candidacy.

Ryan could either change his demands or any of these Representatives could change their position. But as it stands now, things are not looking up for Paul Ryan.

..............SNIP"

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10 Freedom Caucus Members Publicly Reject Paul Ryan, Enough To Doom His Candidacy For Speaker (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2015 OP

And the GOP cannot get rid of the freedom Caucus in the next election because congresspeople are no applegrove Oct 2015 #1

Exactly, they're all owned by billionaires and churches Warpy Oct 2015 #4

Only 1 way to make them not matter and all the GOP has to do is compromise with Dems YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #7

FreeDUMB caucus is the one that wants to shut down the government other than defense randys1 Oct 2015 #2

I'm pretty sure Ryan knew this going in KamaAina Oct 2015 #3

Ari Rabin-Havt talked about this today, he recalled a story from his own life where he randys1 Oct 2015 #6

BINGO and now Ryan can get back to planning his run for the Presidency. Vincardog Oct 2015 #8

Waiting for the clown car to go over the cliff, is he? KamaAina Oct 2015 #9

The GOP meltdown continues. Way to go, guys! Comrade Grumpy Oct 2015 #5

Makes me wonder if Ryan didn't set it up to fail Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #10

Well, Ryan ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #11

applegrove

(118,654 posts)

1. And the GOP cannot get rid of the freedom Caucus in the next election because congresspeople are no

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:23 PM

Oct 2015

longer dependant of the backing of the establishment to raise money and probably a few are in gerrymandered districts.

Warpy

(111,257 posts)

4. Exactly, they're all owned by billionaires and churches

Reply to applegrove (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:27 PM

Oct 2015

and think they're independent of the party they claim to represent.

This is what will rip that party completely apart.

Making deals with devils to gain political power has only a temporary benefit. Soon, the devils begin to try to take over.

YabaDabaNoDinoNo

(460 posts)

7. Only 1 way to make them not matter and all the GOP has to do is compromise with Dems

Reply to applegrove (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:48 PM

Oct 2015

but the Pubs won't do that they will keep their silly Hassert rule in place.

Oh well.

randys1

(16,286 posts)

2. FreeDUMB caucus is the one that wants to shut down the government other than defense

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:24 PM

Oct 2015

They always hated paying taxes, they know nothing about the benefits they get from them even though their very existence can be traced to our engorgement, but they hate it.

When a Black man was elected not once, but twice, they decided the government MUST be ended other than defense.

Therefore, Paul Ryan is not pure enough for these children in adult suits.

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)

3. I'm pretty sure Ryan knew this going in

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:26 PM

Oct 2015

No dummy he, unlike far too many of them. This way he gets to tell the leadership "See, I tried", while knowing full well there was zero chance this was ever going to happen.

randys1

(16,286 posts)

6. Ari Rabin-Havt talked about this today, he recalled a story from his own life where he

Reply to KamaAina (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:40 PM

Oct 2015

wanted to leave a job so he told the boss he wanted 3 times as much money as he thought the boss would be willing to pay, that way he could leave on good terms.

The boss surprised him and agreed to pay it.

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Vincardog

(20,234 posts)

8. BINGO and now Ryan can get back to planning his run for the Presidency.

Reply to KamaAina (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:49 PM

Oct 2015

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)

9. Waiting for the clown car to go over the cliff, is he?

Reply to Vincardog (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:52 PM

Oct 2015

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)

5. The GOP meltdown continues. Way to go, guys!

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:28 PM

Oct 2015

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)

10. Makes me wonder if Ryan didn't set it up to fail

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:52 PM

Oct 2015

He did not want the job, but is now on record as taking one for the Party. I'd bet he also now has a few political favors he can call in, and he will still be lord of ways and means.

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)

11. Well, Ryan ...

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Oct 21, 2015, 05:58 PM

Oct 2015

You drafted your pre-nup and your suitor balked. Time to move on ... like you didn't know that would happen.

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