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Mass

(27,315 posts) Fri Oct 23, 2015, 12:15 PM Oct 2015

For anybody who has the mistaken idea Paul Ryan is a pragmatic

(I think we all know he is not a moderate).

Note : my point is about the immediate damages he can create, as this idiot voted NO to absolutely necessary measures in the past. It is not about his intellectual abilities, but his absolute lack of empathy.

Paul Ryan voted NO to the three last votes that would have raised the debt ceiling

Here are a few votes since 2011, where the GOP took the House

http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/113/house/2/61

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-16/complete-house-debt-ceiling-vote-roll-call

http://www.politico.com/story/2011/08/full-house-roll-call-060453?o=0

He also voted against funds for Sandy

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll023.xml
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll007.xml

Knowing that one of the first votes he will likely have to take as speaker is to raise the ceiling (and do it in less than a week), this should frighten all of us terribly.

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For anybody who has the mistaken idea Paul Ryan is a pragmatic (Original Post) Mass Oct 2015 OP

He's definitely a scary asshole. nt valerief Oct 2015 #1

he is a hard corn conservative-fiscal and social. I know coming from WI. He is riversedge Oct 2015 #2

I'm not frightened of him (he's intellectually dull & an empty suit) but agree that he's no moderate FSogol Oct 2015 #3

Actually, my point is that he is part of them. His vote record shows that. Mass Oct 2015 #5

Yeah, I don't get how the press can think of him as a policy wonk. The pages of his plans are empty FSogol Oct 2015 #6

Well as Harry Reid said, at least you can have a conversation with him emulatorloo Oct 2015 #8

Anyone who has the idea that Paul Ryan is brilliant ... Jim__ Oct 2015 #4

That Ryan is no longer "conservative" enough for RW media pretty much says that they are crazy Johonny Oct 2015 #7

Earlier thread quoted a nut-job who say he is a "Trojan Horse For the Homosexual Lobby" emulatorloo Oct 2015 #9

Charlie Pierce nailed that little shit four years ago hifiguy Oct 2015 #10

it says a lot that the crazy caucus find him acceptable JI7 Oct 2015 #11

valerief

(53,235 posts)

1. He's definitely a scary asshole. nt

Reply to Mass (Original post)

Fri Oct 23, 2015, 12:16 PM

Oct 2015

riversedge

(70,214 posts)

2. he is a hard corn conservative-fiscal and social. I know coming from WI. He is

Reply to Mass (Original post)

Fri Oct 23, 2015, 12:28 PM

Oct 2015

also into himself. I can not stand the little rat.

FSogol

(45,484 posts)

3. I'm not frightened of him (he's intellectually dull & an empty suit) but agree that he's no moderate

Reply to Mass (Original post)

Fri Oct 23, 2015, 12:38 PM

Oct 2015

He won't be the guy that solves Republican dysfunction and correct their assholish ways.

Mass

(27,315 posts)

5. Actually, my point is that he is part of them. His vote record shows that.

Reply to FSogol (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 23, 2015, 12:49 PM

Oct 2015

So, there is no way he can correct a problem he is part of.

He has somehow bamboozled the media in thinking of him as a thoughtful and responsible guy, which is he is not. But what frightens me is the mess he can create as speaker, starting by not renewing the debt ceiling.

FSogol

(45,484 posts)

6. Yeah, I don't get how the press can think of him as a policy wonk. The pages of his plans are empty

Reply to Mass (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 23, 2015, 12:51 PM

Oct 2015

Is there really that much of a intellectual void in today's GOP? Where did the Richard Lugars go?

emulatorloo

(44,121 posts)

8. Well as Harry Reid said, at least you can have a conversation with him

Reply to Mass (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:18 PM

Oct 2015

Unlike the shrieking monkeys of the Free-dumb Causus. Exhibit A: See Jim Jordan at yesterday's Benghazi hearing.

I'm Paraphrasing Reid's "damning him with faint praise" statement. And needlessly slandering monkeys.

yep, Ryan's an empty headed tool extremist nonetheless. The truth will come out, and he's gonna rue the day he takes this job.

Jim__

(14,075 posts)

4. Anyone who has the idea that Paul Ryan is brilliant ...

Reply to Mass (Original post)

Fri Oct 23, 2015, 12:48 PM

Oct 2015

... should be disabused of that notion fairly quickly under his reign as Speaker.

Johonny

(20,849 posts)

7. That Ryan is no longer "conservative" enough for RW media pretty much says that they are crazy

Reply to Mass (Original post)

Fri Oct 23, 2015, 12:53 PM

Oct 2015

nut bags and that the Republican party needs to divorce itself from Fox News and Hate radio. But it can't because there is no Republican party anymore. Without them the sheeple might not vote GOP even if there really is no GOP to vote for. There are just a loose collection of egomaniacs picking at each other with rusty hooks to scrape off the dead carrion of the economy. There's nothing even remotely interesting about this party yet people do vote for them. It seems amazing.

emulatorloo

(44,121 posts)

9. Earlier thread quoted a nut-job who say he is a "Trojan Horse For the Homosexual Lobby"

Reply to Johonny (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:22 PM

Oct 2015

Your analysis is dead on.

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)

10. Charlie Pierce nailed that little shit four years ago

Reply to Mass (Original post)

Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:24 PM

Oct 2015

when he called Ryan "the zombie-eyed granny starver."

No way to top that in pithiness or accuracy.

JI7

(89,249 posts)

11. it says a lot that the crazy caucus find him acceptable

Reply to Mass (Original post)

Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:28 PM

Oct 2015

And i think the others like him because he does not come of in the same way in public so can't make them look as bad as people like gohmert gowdy and others.

Remember that one reaSon Romney picked him was he needed to make the republican base happy.

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