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spanone

(135,831 posts)
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:29 PM Oct 2015

According to CNN, he's already done the impossible..'How Paul Ryan unified a fractured GOP'

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How Paul Ryan unified a fractured GOP

Washington (CNN)Rep. Paul Ryan's winning pitch to House conservatives amounted to this: Let's start over.

For years, tensions had been boiling between the hard right of the Republican Party and the House leadership, a battle that effectively pushed Speaker John Boehner out of office and ended the bid of Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy to succeed him.

But Ryan, facing skepticism from hardliners in the House Freedom Caucus, spoke bluntly to the conservatives, telling them that he was more ideologically in line with them than with moderates in the so-called Tuesday Group. He said he was not the type of leader who is out to seek retribution, unlike past leaders.

The 45-year-old Wisconsin congressman said he would only push important bills such as immigration that have a majority of support from Republicans -- abiding by the "Hastert Rule."
He promised bold policy ideas on the House floor like welfare reform, health care legislation and a tax overhaul -- and that the chamber would stand firm on those policy proposals with Senate Republicans and the White House. He softened his demand to roll back a procedure allowing lawmakers to overthrow a sitting speaker.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/22/politics/paul-ryan-house-speaker-announcement/
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According to CNN, he's already done the impossible..'How Paul Ryan unified a fractured GOP' (Original Post) spanone Oct 2015 OP
I've never seen another group of bootlickers as digusting as the mainstream media. Rex Oct 2015 #1
ugh tell me about it... renegade000 Oct 2015 #11
True, yet that AA/AAA team has ESPN behind them, while the MLB team has some online bloggers. Rex Oct 2015 #14
Exactly, which is why I tend to be most frustrated with the media most of all... renegade000 Oct 2015 #20
Me too, some get mad at me and say that is not the focus. Rex Oct 2015 #21
Couldn't have said it better. You are so right on. smirkymonkey Oct 2015 #25
Uh...OK. Not seeing that anywhere else. But whatevs. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #2
The MSM will go out of their way to bow down to Ryan WI_DEM Oct 2015 #3
already promised.... spanone Oct 2015 #6
Two big caveats and at least one of them is dangerous! Mass Oct 2015 #4
Teaparty wants government workers to starve and become homeless. They want working people randys1 Oct 2015 #5
There goal always was to destroy the middle class, destroy the federal government Rex Oct 2015 #8
Old school GOP actually didnt want this, that is what is sad randys1 Oct 2015 #10
They are just like us now, expendable and useless unless they show fanatical support Rex Oct 2015 #12
and they would have stayed in their holes were it not for Obama randys1 Oct 2015 #13
True Obama shined a huge spotlight on the GOP hole and they all started crawling out. Rex Oct 2015 #15
I agree completely but you only listed part of what he wants jwirr Oct 2015 #16
from the article.... spanone Oct 2015 #18
Ryan will do no better than Boehner.. chillfactor Oct 2015 #7
He's so buff underpants Oct 2015 #9
LOL, TOO FUNNY, what is this, The Onion. . B Calm Oct 2015 #17
no, this is a major 'news' organization....sadly spanone Oct 2015 #19
I wonder how long he will last. I think about a month. patricia92243 Oct 2015 #22
don't know, but it's amazing that he performed this feat while we were all 'distracted' by Hillary spanone Oct 2015 #23
bring him on olddots Oct 2015 #24
Paul Ryan is magical! smirkymonkey Oct 2015 #26
So DREAMY! TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #29
Only in is own narcissistic little dream world. smirkymonkey Oct 2015 #30
Ryan will not be able to both satisfy the fringe elements of his party and the less so drray23 Oct 2015 #27
... Scurrilous Oct 2015 #28
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
1. I've never seen another group of bootlickers as digusting as the mainstream media.
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:31 PM
Oct 2015

If it is a GOP turd, they turn it into a gold bar. If it is a Dem avatar, they treat him/her like trash.

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
11. ugh tell me about it...
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:48 PM
Oct 2015

The only silver lining to that seems to be that the GOP believes the media hype and becomes delusional, then it all collapses for them spectacularly in public view.

See: Biden vs. Ryan (2012 VP debate); Obama vs. Romney (2nd and 3rd Pres. debates); Clinton vs. Benghazi Committee....

I mean, regardless of what your opinions are of Obama, Biden, and Clinton are in terms of policy/accomplishment, you have to admit that in terms of these public political spectacles, Dems vs. GOP is currently like a MLB all-star team vs. someone's AA/AAA team in the playoffs.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. True, yet that AA/AAA team has ESPN behind them, while the MLB team has some online bloggers.
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:52 PM
Oct 2015

I don't think things would have gotten this drastic, if the media would have stayed fair and balanced. The thing is, Obama and Biden and HRC all live in the real world with the rest of us. The GOP lives on some strange planet that has huge problems when it runs up against the wall of reality.

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
20. Exactly, which is why I tend to be most frustrated with the media most of all...
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 03:20 PM
Oct 2015

Hell, the media treats Sanders as some sort of "fringe" leftist, when in reality he'd find a home in any of the mainstream, center-left Social Democratic parties in Europe.

I think part of the problem is how the media interprets "fair and balanced." The media is too scarred (or itself deluded) to call out the GOP over living in la-la-land lest they be branded as biased.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
21. Me too, some get mad at me and say that is not the focus.
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 03:23 PM
Oct 2015

When I feel that it is almost 100% where the focus needs to be, since the media gets to pretend to be the moral majority of voters.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
3. The MSM will go out of their way to bow down to Ryan
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:35 PM
Oct 2015

he's one of their favorites--they'll carry water for him as long as they can. Aww he will abide by the Denny (pedophile) Hastert Rule.

spanone

(135,831 posts)
6. already promised....
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:42 PM
Oct 2015

The Freedom Caucus announced Wednesday that a “supermajority” of its members would back Ryan. There was no official endorsement from the group, however, which means the unspecified majority fell short of 80?percent.

That doesn’t sound so bad — perhaps 10 or fewer unreconciled renegades, who theoretically could be marginalized. “I believe this is a positive step toward a unified Republican team,” Ryan said. But in courting the ultra-conservatives, he reportedly made concessions that seem to guarantee that the speaker’s gavel will be a symbol of misery, not of power.

The main problem is that Ryan is said to have promised to follow the “Hastert rule,” named for former speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.), requiring that legislation have the support of a majority of the GOP caucus before it is brought to the House floor.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/paul-ryan-is-doomed/2015/10/22/4dce4352-78e9-11e5-bc80-9091021aeb69_story.html

Mass

(27,315 posts)
4. Two big caveats and at least one of them is dangerous!
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:35 PM
Oct 2015
Ryan's problems, however, are bound to grow with the right as soon as he takes the gavel -- namely on two matters: Fiscal issues and his desire to make it harder to overthrow a sitting speaker.


On the first point, he simply accepted to run without any of his conditions fulfilled.

The second is the most worrisome however.
will have to weigh in on the contentious issue of raising the national debt ceiling as early as next week -- and extending government funding past Dec. 11.


We may be in a major crisis as soon as next week, as he has not voted to raise the debt ceiling since at least 2011. What position will he take as speaker?
This should worry everybody including the sane Republicans, but nobody seems to care. They probably hope Boehner will put it on the floor, but he does not seem to want to do that!

randys1

(16,286 posts)
5. Teaparty wants government workers to starve and become homeless. They want working people
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:41 PM
Oct 2015

to work for $2 an hour.

They want Women to die in back alleys if they have sex without permission.

THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT

Does anyone reading this disagree with what I just said?

I know there are idiots who cant post on DU who disagree with me, but do any of the adults here at DU?

How about their desire to see government workers be hungry and homeless? Anyone doubt this is their goal?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
8. There goal always was to destroy the middle class, destroy the federal government
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:46 PM
Oct 2015

start as many wars as they can and punish those already on welfare. They are the most destructive poitlical party we've ever encountered and their people in charge are the biggest idiots on the planet.

They want us all to be workforce slaves and when we die...we better just go out with a wimper. We are expendable assests to the GOP and when we want stuff (like water and shelter) we get derided by the GOP as depending on handouts.

All the while, the biggest welfare cheats ARE the GOP members!

One day the GOP is going to pay for every year they've hurt this country and it's citizens. That day will come and it will be ugly for the traitors and charlatans that have put so many millions out of work and in graves.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. They are just like us now, expendable and useless unless they show fanatical support
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:49 PM
Oct 2015

for the Tea Crazies.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
13. and they would have stayed in their holes were it not for Obama
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:50 PM
Oct 2015

He brought them out in the sun

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
15. True Obama shined a huge spotlight on the GOP hole and they all started crawling out.
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:53 PM
Oct 2015

HRC will do the same thing imo.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
16. I agree completely but you only listed part of what he wants
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:54 PM
Oct 2015

for our country. Didn't he introduce a terrible budget just before he ran for VP? I am very sure that he is still for that piece of junk. And if I remember correctly he actually wants all of us to starve not just government workers.

The various R groups have just given him their vow to follow him regardless of what he proposes. I actually think in the long run that is good for us. He is going to give us all reasons to hate Rs. He is stubborn, arrogant and has no empathy for anyone but himself.

He is not going to make any friends among the people who are sick of business as usual.

spanone

(135,831 posts)
18. from the article....
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:58 PM
Oct 2015
He promised bold policy ideas on the House floor like welfare reform, health care legislation and a tax overhaul -- and that the chamber would stand firm on those policy proposals with Senate Republicans and the White House. He softened his demand to roll back a procedure allowing lawmakers to overthrow a sitting speaker.


http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/22/politics/paul-ryan-house-speaker-announcement/


in republican speak: this means, eliminating welfare, eliminating healthcare and tax cuts for the rich

chillfactor

(7,575 posts)
7. Ryan will do no better than Boehner..
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 02:42 PM
Oct 2015

the infighting between the fighting factions in the House will be his downfall just as it was for Boehner...

spanone

(135,831 posts)
23. don't know, but it's amazing that he performed this feat while we were all 'distracted' by Hillary
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 04:00 PM
Oct 2015

tells me that paul ryan is a flap jack flippin' genius!!!





drray23

(7,627 posts)
27. Ryan will not be able to both satisfy the fringe elements of his party and the less so
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 04:36 PM
Oct 2015

If he gets elected speaker I predict a full blown crisis when the debt ceiling debate comes around.
The RW will push him to shut down the government and since he just got elected he will not defy the freedom caucus.
So, he will do it. We will have to go through a couple weeks of default before the crisis is resolved.

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