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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:31 PM Oct 2015

Aren't EXXON share holders in part responsible for climate change denial? Discuss.

Shouldn't there be some sort of large penalty for people who made a lot of money from the profits of the fossil fuel industry that has destroyed the earth?

We now know that EXXON, at least, knew about the danger and went ahead with dangerous and damaging practices.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027291417

Shouldn't share holders who profited from the rape of planet earth pay up?

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Aren't EXXON share holders in part responsible for climate change denial? Discuss. (Original Post) grasswire Oct 2015 OP
Are you wondering if we should.... daleanime Oct 2015 #1
Better check your 401K or mutual funds first. Yikes! yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #2
so be it, then grasswire Oct 2015 #3
note: I don't have a 401K or mutual funds. nt grasswire Oct 2015 #4
Those of us who were payed enough.... daleanime Oct 2015 #6
precisely nt grasswire Oct 2015 #10
They are paying. Scurrilous Oct 2015 #5
they may be earning less now... grasswire Oct 2015 #7
I don't see that happening under our current economic system. Scurrilous Oct 2015 #9
Freedom of speech. Downwinder Oct 2015 #8
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
2. Better check your 401K or mutual funds first. Yikes!
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:47 PM
Oct 2015

I believe everyone who has any fund is likely to see some company that may be questionable.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
3. so be it, then
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 07:53 PM
Oct 2015

What about the interests of the billions of people who do not own any shares in anything at all? The earth is theirs, as well, and why should they be de facto subsidizing the wealth of those who are fortunate enough to own shares in fossil fuel producers when the earth is destroyed for all people? Those same people who don't own shares likely don't share in the burning of those fuels for daily transportation, either.

IOW, they did not benefit from the burning of the fossil fuels, they do not benefit from the production, monetarily, and yet they (we) will live with the parched and ruined earth.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
5. They are paying.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 08:19 PM
Oct 2015

Global warming = lessened demand for fossil fuels (esp. natural gas*). Lessened demand = lower prices = lower profits = lower dividends etc for shareholders.

*Natural gas pounded by supply, warm weather

<snip>

"Natural gas futures were clobbered Monday, falling nearly 10 percent as supplies rise toward record levels amid expectations that there will be a warm start to the winter.

The latest weather report showed mild weather across a wide section of the U.S. in the next two weeks, triggering a 9.8 percent plunge in the front-month natural gas contract. The futures ended the session at $2.06 MMBtu, a level last seen in 2012."

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/26/natural-gas-pounded-by-supply-warm-weather.html

In essence, they screwed their own pooch.


More:

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&authuser=0&q=natural+gas&oq=natural+gas&gs_l=news-cc.1.0.43j0l9j43i53.1440.4606.0.6241.11.7.0.4.4.0.291.1000.0j6j1.7.0...0.0...1ac.1.rN20NwP-QUo

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
7. they may be earning less now...
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 08:25 PM
Oct 2015

....but it looks to me as if many people over the last, say, eighty years have stolen the birthright of every human from then on (a habitable earth) and there ought to be some kind of reparations from those who profited large -- above a certain level, perhaps.

Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
9. I don't see that happening under our current economic system.
Tue Oct 27, 2015, 08:29 PM
Oct 2015

The best we can hope for is that they invested a lot of their ill-gotten gains in waterfront property.

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