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JI7

(89,260 posts)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 04:43 AM Oct 2015

Cyclist Crushed to Death when Container Slides off Truck (Workers on Strike , Cost Cutting)

the victim has now been identified as 51 year old Robert Castorena . the day before this horrible accident the same thing happened but nobody was harmed then.


<On Tuesday, it turned deadly. It's unclear what caused the container to come off the truck, but it happened just as the driver was passing the man on his bike. The victim never had a chance. The coroner's office has only identified him as an Asian male.

Alva says he believes trucking companies are cutting corners because truck drivers who haul the cargo are on strike at the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach.

"Right now, since we're on strike, the 18-wheelers aren't taking out the containers. I'm assuming that they're hiring those flatbeds because yesterday it was a flatbed too," said Alva. "Those containers weigh from 40,000 and up. They just strap them on with straps, and they basically tear off."

"What we've got happening here is drivers who are paid by the load instead of by the hour, and so they're just having to drive faster and faster and cut corners, and we've seen so many accidents; people losing their lives," said Barbara Maynard with Teamsters.

"Really it should be the responsibility of these large trucking companies who contract directly with Amazon, Proctor & Gamble, Toyota, Walmart, the owners of this cargo, who really should be following the law and making sure that everybody is safe because these trucks are lethal," said Maynard. >

http://abc7.com/news/bicyclist-crushed-to-death-by-cargo-container-in-long-beach/1054667/

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Cyclist Crushed to Death when Container Slides off Truck (Workers on Strike , Cost Cutting) (Original Post) JI7 Oct 2015 OP
There are supposed to be locks Turbineguy Oct 2015 #1
They're using flatbed trailers, not container chassis jmowreader Oct 2015 #2
There is no equipment exclusivity for union shops. denbot Nov 2015 #7
In that case, why aren't these guys using the right chassis? jmowreader Nov 2015 #11
Because the shippers are jobbing out to any one who will take the load. denbot Nov 2015 #12
the article ssys they are using flatbed and paying by load JI7 Oct 2015 #3
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #5
The murderous union thug meme huh? denbot Nov 2015 #8
You are obviously not a driver Lulu Belle Nov 2015 #9
I am a driver, posting from the Loves in Noth Platte NE denbot Nov 2015 #10
To be fair, opiate69 Oct 2015 #6
horrible Liberal_in_LA Oct 2015 #4

Turbineguy

(37,361 posts)
1. There are supposed to be locks
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:57 AM
Oct 2015

that hold the container to the chassis. They are at all 4 corners. Some are manually engaged, other are automatically engaged by the weight of the container and have to be manually unlocked



jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
2. They're using flatbed trailers, not container chassis
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 01:34 PM
Oct 2015

I suspect use of the container chassis pool is restricted to Union drivers only, so they're using non-Union drivers to haul this freight.

denbot

(9,901 posts)
7. There is no equipment exclusivity for union shops.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 05:06 AM
Nov 2015

Trucks are trucks, trailers are trailers. Container companies own the trailer, and most of the trucks too.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
11. In that case, why aren't these guys using the right chassis?
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 03:50 PM
Nov 2015

Flatbeds, which the article says they used in at least this incident, don't have the right locking mechanisms.

I just checked the Pool of Pools' daily chassis inventory at http://www.pop-lalb.com/reports/Terminal_Inventory.pdf. There are roughly 35,000 available, roadworthy chassis right now. There's no excuse for leaving the port with a container that's on anything else.

denbot

(9,901 posts)
12. Because the shippers are jobbing out to any one who will take the load.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 07:09 PM
Nov 2015

Regardless if they are capable.

JI7

(89,260 posts)
3. the article ssys they are using flatbed and paying by load
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 05:06 PM
Oct 2015

Instead of time. So they pack on as much as they can on the flatbed which is not secure.

Response to JI7 (Reply #3)

Lulu Belle

(70 posts)
9. You are obviously not a driver
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 08:31 AM
Nov 2015

This kind of crap goes on from time to time.
Union guys are not the only offenders, they just have a reputation for it during strikes.
Feel free to piss and moan some more though...

denbot

(9,901 posts)
10. I am a driver, posting from the Loves in Noth Platte NE
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 02:40 PM
Nov 2015

I drive 170k+ as a solo, so I think I qualify.

 

opiate69

(10,129 posts)
6. To be fair,
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 07:20 PM
Oct 2015

most can (container) drivers get paid by the load. The distances are too short to make per-mile pay viable. But, loading them onto flatbeds and using anything less than chain to strap them down is nothing short of abject gross negligence, imo.

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