What, the cyclist had no gender? Or was he a male and they don't count as full humans anymore?

Otherwise, +1000

The obvious answer to your question is yes.

What a sad commentary on the times we live in.

That's when stuff like that actually didn't make the news, which may have something to do with why people think 2015 is more violent than 1995 (when it isn't, by a long shot).

Better find a better defense of your pro-gun position. The media thing isn't working.

Though it's a toss up whether they were more at fault 20 years ago for ignoring violence or now for sensationalizing it.

your pro-gun position

Seems I don't remember 1995 that way.

I know 1975 wasn't that way, nor 1965.

Further, the data is juiced up to call the events "mass shootings" (whether the victims are killed or not). The net result is to make these Events(?) seem more often.

In fact MSM did not cover this stuff that much years ago, and the rates of gun-related homicides Have gone down. The rate of mass-murder under the old standard appears to be steady over the last 30 or so years as per Mother Jones.

But MSM is fully invested in gun-control politics, as you probably know.

And Harvard, and the FBI.

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2014/10/mass-shootings-rising-harvard

Using the old (recently changed) FBI definition of 4+, not including the killer. You are citing the "mass-shooting" events in MJ, a new and different animal than the "mass murder" rates.

MJ acknowledged the mass-Murder rates in a previous issue, but I'm sure they are enthusiastically embracing the new & improved definitions and terminology.

Though I also noted that Mother Jones had to say "three or more people shot not in relation to another crime".

Even today if somebody shoots up a park in a black neighborhood in Chicago it doesn't get called a "mass shooting" (same day as the Navy Yard shooting, 10 kids in Chicago were shot in a park. Air time? zero)

I do agree with that: mass shootings of middle class white people are more common now than 20 years ago.

"That's when stuff like that actually didn't make the news..."

You of course will supply us with objective evidence to support that allegation yes? As my memories of the consistent reporting of regarding violent crime on local and national news programming is quite a bit differently than yours.

Which is entirely false. So I make the inference that violence is reported more now than it was then.

It's almost a daily occurrence in this country. Sad.

potholes don't get fixed, streetlights don't stay on all night, etc. But not to worry, soon hundreds of crosses, flowers and teddy bears will be piled high at the sight and the precious souls will all be angels sitting with jesus, so it's all good.
Like I said, teabagger heaven.

Unless of course you like teabagger heaven.

There is no evidence provided of that claim.

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back up your assertion that the police killed all four of them.

This is just insane, in addition to all the other worries of life, you have to be worried about being shot to death in a shooting.

Tourists are safe in the US.

Everyone should dress like a tourist and this madness will cease to be a problem.

How does a tourist dress?

there was a well organized gang targeting tourists leaving the airport heading to I-95, 836 and NW 36th Street, which led to I-95 one way and The Palmetto Expressway (Hwy 826) the other way. Tourists being robbed, carjacked and/or shot were reported on the news on a daily basis for a long time.

I *think* they caught some and broke the ring up, but am not quite sure. I moved away in '94, only been back once since then and that was to scoop up a friend and get him the hell out of there. I drove 9 hours straight, rested for 3 hours, then drove 9 hours back home.

Just the other day while I was visiting my parents, my dad made the comment that "Chattanooga is getting as bad as Miami was. Every day on the news I'm hearing about 2 or 3 shootings that happened overnight!"

Peace,

Ghost

knowing that it was most likely tourists driving them.
I remember that.

themselves being different than resident tags, you could spot a rental car a mile away back then!

Peace,

Ghost

And yet there is a State Department travel advisory.

United States 4.7 per 100,000

Mexico 21.5 per 100,000





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

I'm guessing that actually doesn't matter to you...
If you're an average person in Mexico, your odds of getting killed are extremely low. Organized crime is what kicks the rates up. If you look at specific regions vs. other regions, that changes the rates (just as, for example, you compared Detroit or Chicago versus, say, Boise, ID).
Most of Mexico- I'm sure you don't care about this at all- is perfectly safe. It's why blanket travel advisories don't work and why thankfully, the State Department realizes that.

I'm more worried about my safety walking home from my office in Morgantown, WV than I ever was walking alone at night in Guadalajara, Mexico.
And I'm a woman.

If you're an average person in the USA, your odds of getting killed are extremely low. Gang violence is what kicks the rates up.

Costa Rica, Jamaica, Panama, Bahamas, Thailand, Barbados, Bermuda, BVI, Seychelles, Peru, Ecuador, Grenada, Cayman Islands, Saint Lucia, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Brazil, Trinidad and Tobago, etc....

Every one of those countries has a higher homicide rate then the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Even Canada has twice the murder rate of the Netherlands, and Canada is the least murder-y country in the Americas (then Chile, then Cuba, then the US, and then you start getting to the really violent countries).

Because people will abide by a complete ban...totally!

That charm being Avada Kedavra...

we'd all be dead now.

It's a RW British tabloid.

Too bad for the dead people and their families, huh, but that's the cost of freedom so we can all live in Gun Fuckers Paradise.

This is sure taking long

let's see if we can get the numbers back up to the way they were in the 1980s... because god know we're not gonna try and make it better... might as well run the board...





/sarcasm



So happy my kids aren't growing up in America, but that makes me very sad...

I've got two long guns that were my Dad's I like guns as tools or toys since I'm of a certain age. I grew up when most every hour of play time was playing war. We all stole the old mans gun and a few rounds to go shoot stuff up until we were old enough to be blessed with our own guns.
I pretty much got over it by the time I was 12. I shot a squirrel back then and I never had the desire to kill anything since then.
I think we won't get past our gundamentalism until we submit to a truth and reconciliation system to deal with our problems.