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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 02:55 PM Nov 2015

Fiorina Admits She ‘Misspoke’ in Debate Claim About Women Losing Jobs Under Obama

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fiorina-admits-she-misspoke-in-debate-claim-about-women-losing-jobs-under-obama/
lied would be more accurate

Carly Fiorina admitted today she “misspoke” an one of the claims she made during last week’s debate concerning how many women have lost jobs under President Obama.

During the debate, Fiorina claimed that 92 percent of all jobs lost during the president’s first term belonged to women. Fact-checkers concluded that this was a misleading statistic because it does not factor into the president’s entire first term.

When Martha Raddatz brought that up on ABC’s This Week this morning, FIorina admitted that “in this particular case, the fact-checkers are correct.”

She said she “misspoke on that particular fact,” but still felt her point stands that women have suffered economically under the leadership of President Obama and Hillary Clinton wouldn’t be much better.



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Fiorina Admits She ‘Misspoke’ in Debate Claim About Women Losing Jobs Under Obama (Original Post) cal04 Nov 2015 OP
No, you were caught lying. Again. sakabatou Nov 2015 #1
Her lips were moving ... PassingFair Nov 2015 #2
Yeah, exactly. What is this crap where republicans "misspeak" and smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #4
mis-spoke....since when did candidates get away with that bullshit...she lied spanone Nov 2015 #3
Since were on the subject, Carly HassleCat Nov 2015 #5
Misspoke? Nope. She lied and tried to double down on it. Eugene Nov 2015 #6
Repeatedly, if I recall the scenario. ChazInAz Nov 2015 #30
This from the supreme queen of creating unemployment. CentralMass Nov 2015 #7
Fiorina gets absolutely ZERO right to play the jobs card. Initech Nov 2015 #8
Did she look like she was snarling at the beginning of this segment? jmowreader Nov 2015 #9
she is always snarling, IMO... CTyankee Nov 2015 #10
They may want to change her to nude lipstick for just this reason jmowreader Nov 2015 #11
I saw that, too. It makes her look deranged which I truly believe she is. CTyankee Nov 2015 #12
A common rethug tactic. lpbk2713 Nov 2015 #13
She lied. Iggo Nov 2015 #14
Yeah. Yesterday, I Misspoke Twice ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #16
Those were just incorrect predictions. Iggo Nov 2015 #21
Like I Said ProfessorGAC Nov 2015 #22
She lets stand her bigger lie... JohnnyRingo Nov 2015 #15
And of course, the Republicans have done everything they can to hurt the economy and workers Akamai Nov 2015 #18
I am reminded of chervilant Nov 2015 #17
Haven't seen a republican yet that didn't lie about everything. B Calm Nov 2015 #19
TRUTH LEANS LEFT - REPUBLICANS LEAN RIGHT vkkv Nov 2015 #20
She LIED in front of 14,000,000 people. She recanted her lie in front of a couple hundred... ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2015 #23
LIAR! nt TeamPooka Nov 2015 #24
That number is such BS it doesn't even require a factchecker. LuckyLib Nov 2015 #25
She's done now. Ace Rothstein Nov 2015 #26
Call Her Out on the First Term Issue erpowers Nov 2015 #27
Could it be because of her Helen Borg Nov 2015 #28
Good!... Now... N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2015 #29
The hairball of politics houston16revival Nov 2015 #31
never let the facts defeat cindyperry2010 Nov 2015 #32
It would be easier and less time-consuming to admit when she didn't "misspeak" marmar Nov 2015 #33
She can't even confess to a lie without lying. lastlib Nov 2015 #34
Lying her damn head off. got it. Cha Nov 2015 #35
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
4. Yeah, exactly. What is this crap where republicans "misspeak" and
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 03:10 PM
Nov 2015

Democrats "lie". They are so full of shit.

spanone

(135,851 posts)
3. mis-spoke....since when did candidates get away with that bullshit...she lied
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 03:03 PM
Nov 2015

that's two big LIES in a row...1st- planned parenthood and the 'organ havesting' bullshit....now this.

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HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
5. Since were on the subject, Carly
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 03:12 PM
Nov 2015

How did HP women workers do under your leadership? Did you only lay off men?

Eugene

(61,914 posts)
6. Misspoke? Nope. She lied and tried to double down on it.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 03:16 PM
Nov 2015

She retreats only when her position becomes impossible.

ChazInAz

(2,571 posts)
30. Repeatedly, if I recall the scenario.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 04:42 PM
Nov 2015

She lied, got called on it, lied again, called again. Then she went Full CEO on the uppity reporter (Doubtless, Carly was annoyed that there was no way to fire her on the spot.), got snarly and attacked the reporter, then repeated the lie.
Pretty thorough misspeaking, there. CEOs don't belong in public service.

Initech

(100,087 posts)
8. Fiorina gets absolutely ZERO right to play the jobs card.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 04:23 PM
Nov 2015

You can't go crying about jobs when you laid off an entire city's worth of people while you were CEO of Hewlett Packard, Carly.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
11. They may want to change her to nude lipstick for just this reason
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 05:04 PM
Nov 2015

The shades they use on her make it obvious at a distance when Carly gets an "I want to eat your children" look on her face.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
12. I saw that, too. It makes her look deranged which I truly believe she is.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 05:10 PM
Nov 2015

bitter, nasty and vicious. Well, I guess that appeals to a very vicious fringe of voters but she's gonna tank with everybody else...

lpbk2713

(42,760 posts)
13. A common rethug tactic.
Sun Nov 1, 2015, 05:15 PM
Nov 2015



Make all the wild claims you want to when there's a big nationwide audience.
Then correct yourself days later only after taken to task and when not near
as many are watching.

ProfessorGAC

(65,085 posts)
16. Yeah. Yesterday, I Misspoke Twice
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 10:13 AM
Nov 2015

Once was when i was sure my friend's putt was going in and i said "That's in!" I misspoke, but i didn't lie.

Then my wife asked how the game was going, and i said "The Bears are going to win this." Then the defense went braindead. I misspoke, but i didn't lie.

Carly lied.

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
15. She lets stand her bigger lie...
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 09:54 AM
Nov 2015

...and all republicans use it, that Obama caused mass job losses when he took office. Of course the employment situation was inherited and has vastly improved since.

Our governor, who was elected in 2008, often cites how miserable the Ohio economy was when he came in, then continues to cite the great improvements under his watch, as if democrat Ted Strickland caused unemployment and Kasich turned it around.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
18. And of course, the Republicans have done everything they can to hurt the economy and workers
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 10:54 AM
Nov 2015

The "Caucus Room Conspiracy" has led to Republican practices that have continued since the first day of the Obama presidency, with austerity politics, real attempts to hold the country hostage by not agreeing to raising the debt limit, cutting foodstamps and unemployment, etc., etc.

I think generally Obama has done a pretty darned good job, especially when one considers that the Republicans have been unified in their hatred of him. Also, the press has promoted the idea that "both sides are responsible." That is nonsense of the highest order.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
19. Haven't seen a republican yet that didn't lie about everything.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 11:00 AM
Nov 2015

Same old shit comes out of their mouths.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
23. She LIED in front of 14,000,000 people. She recanted her lie in front of a couple hundred...
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 11:45 AM
Nov 2015

...thousand people.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
25. That number is such BS it doesn't even require a factchecker.
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 01:36 PM
Nov 2015

Any thinking person can tell that stat is way out of whack with reality. Making shit up -- it's what Republicans do.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
27. Call Her Out on the First Term Issue
Mon Nov 2, 2015, 02:03 PM
Nov 2015

Carly Fiorina should also be called out on her timeline. She keeps wanting to use President Obama's first term. President Obama has had two terms. If she is going to analysis his time in office she needs to analysis his entire term. Also, Martha Raddatz should have pushed Fiorina on the fact that things got better for women near the end of President Obama's first term. Raddatz should have also pressed Fiorina more on the fact that more women for working at the end of President Obama's first term than when he took office. How can progressive policies be bad for women if more women were working at the end of President Obama's first term than when he first took office? Raddatz should have also forced Fiorina to acknowledge that the main reason there were so many women living in poverty and having other economic issues is that we have been dealing with a recession, which started during President George W. Bush's time in office and that the recession happened as a result of the economic collapse that occurred at the end of President Bush's time in office. It is very likely that women would not be in the position that they are in if it had not been for the policies of President Bush and the economic collapse and recession that occurred as a result.





lastlib

(23,251 posts)
34. She can't even confess to a lie without lying.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:05 AM
Nov 2015

Did she ever work for Nixon?? Or the Booshes?? It takes skill, talent and training to lie the way she does.

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