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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:00 PM Nov 2015

Low Voter Turnout: I'd propose a concerted Dem project to move voting day to Saturday.

No, it's not the only thing contributing to the dysfunction of American politics, but it would be a single lever point to focus energy on, doesn't require a constitutional convention, and would increase voter turnout, which currently is acting as a huge systematic force multiplier for the wingnut demographic.

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jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
1. Because business is more important than democracy? No. We can take a day during the week, make it
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:05 PM
Nov 2015

a federal holiday, and start teaching kids why we trashed their future (and continue to lie to them that we are fixing it - lol ) and why this is important.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
2. Sure, that's fine too.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:06 PM
Nov 2015

I'd predict the probability of success is higher for moving it to Saturday. But either way.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
6. Democrats always get "success" from caving in to business. And constantly complain their
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:40 PM
Nov 2015

lives aren't getting better.

One should do different things if they want a different result.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
4. Yeah, or mail ballots. Mail everybody their ballot.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:10 PM
Nov 2015

Voter's choice whether they want to mail it back or take it to a voting center in person.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
7. Works great here in Oregon.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:41 PM
Nov 2015

We've been exclusively vote-by-mail here for years, and last I checked (which was years ago), it has consistently increased our turnout.

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
8. Day or method mean nothing
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:44 PM
Nov 2015

I live in Washington state and we get our ballots mailed to us 2 weeks before election day (with a booklet explaining each item being voted pro and con and detailing any cost involved) and all we have to do is fill it out, put in a special envolope provided, sign it and drop it off at a special mailbox-like box, of which there are dozens all around towns, typically one in walking distance from your home (true in my case), anytime before 8pm Nov 3rd. Easy as could be. My town had a 11% voter turn out, my county has a 27% voter turn out. In total roughly 30% of registered voters decided the outcome.
It has nothing to do with method of voting or day of voting and everything to do with voter apathy and having nothing to believe in, to be excited for, to vote.
We need a canidiate and a cause that goes a different direction, if my choices are light grey and dark grey, what the hell do I care who wins.
If I tell people I need your taxes dollars for this thing or that thing and it never happens or takes years and more tax dollars and the benefit is not as visible anymore, it makes me less inclined to believe you next time you need my money or effort.
We have to go out, the candidate has to go out, door to door, show we care and it matters. Talk to people, listen to people and be accountable to people.

I am a progressive. Ask me why.

 

saturnsring

(1,832 posts)
10. having nothing to believe in, to be excited for, to vote. great the cut-off-your-nose-to-spite-your
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 02:25 PM
Nov 2015

face tactic. so while youre waiting for the perfect candidate to dazzle and sweep you off your feet your losing your health care, right to work, your union, your safety nets , unemployment , ssi , medicare or medicade , your WEEKENDS. not to mention the nrlb the cfpb, protections against businesses raping and pillaging your account. additionally the right isn't too concerned with the police violence or the police state or taking away your right to vote, women's right to do anything
GODDAMIT THE TWO PARTIES ARE NOT THE SAME but the left not voting for the left only pushes the left toward the middle
so while you wait for perfection you send all of us back to the 1800s. sometimes voting is about what your gonna get but about keeping the gains you've made and THAT IS something to vote for
take a look at this


isn't stopping this something to vote for?

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
15. Im not the one
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 04:28 PM
Nov 2015

You have to convince. I was one of the 11% in my town that voted.
It isn't about the "perfect" candidate. It is about a candidate that people can believe in enough to come out and vote.
I agree that, for the most part, the two sides are not the same. The problem is that many Dem candidates are more and more often self-identifying as moderate or moderate-centerist and a lot of teapublicans are becoming more radicalized and far-right. As those policies move more to the right, the differences become shades of grey or to complicated and who you vote for matters less and less. Not to mention, the more it sound like "politics as usual" the less people care.

I think we should start focusing on town, county and state elections and then the federal elections will fix themselves.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
13. I think you are correct about needing a change of direction.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 02:34 PM
Nov 2015

We have been begging our party to move in another direction for years. In fact that was what the Nader vote was all about. But it is obvious this year again that TPTB have no plans to listen to the people in our party.

When TPTB continually win by using lies and memes and dirty tricks it is obvious why people do not go to the polls to vote.

But what we saw this election is that the voter who stays home is not hurting TPTB but instead is hurting his own home locale. Ex. KY and ACA.

angrychair

(8,733 posts)
16. Exactly
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 04:31 PM
Nov 2015

Focus on town, county and state elections and then the federal elections will fix themselves.

madville

(7,412 posts)
9. They typically have early voting on the two Saturdays
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 02:20 PM
Nov 2015

Before Election Day here in Florida. I usually vote by mail though.

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Waldorf

(654 posts)
14. I really don't think that would change the voting turnout during mid-terms. Most States
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 02:45 PM
Nov 2015

already have early voting of about two weeks. If somebody isn't going to vote during a two week span I doubt they will show up on a Saturday.

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