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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:09 PM Nov 2015

Ralph Nader Mansplains Monetary Policy to Janet Yellen

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/11/nader-mansplains-monetary-policy-to-yellen.html

It has been hard having a woman lead the world's most powerful economic institution, the Federal Reserve. Federal Open Market Committee meetings have become giant cryfests, punctuated by breaks for emotional overeating. Interest-rate setting has started to align with the lunar cycle. Worst, Janet Yellen, with her small lady brain, has failed to grok that low interest rates harm savers. She'd better sit down with her husband so he can explain that to her!

That last bit — astonishingly, or maybe not so astonishingly — is a real-life, actual suggestion being made by Ralph Nader, who dings Yellen for hurting seniors, not helping payday-loan borrowers, being in the pocket of the big banks, and for playing politics, all in one fantastically sexist opinion piece.


Chairwoman Yellen, I think you should sit down with your Nobel Prize winning husband, economist George Akerlof, who is known to be consumer-sensitive. Together, figure out what to do for tens of millions of Americans who, with more interest income, could stimulate the economy by spending toward the necessities of life.

For heaven's sake, you're a "liberal" from Berkeley! That is supposed to mean something other than to be indentured by the culture and jargon of the Federal Reserve. If you need further nudging on monetary and regulatory policies of the Fed, other than interest rate decisions, why not invite Berkeley Professor Robert Reich, one of your long-time friends and admirers, to lunch on your next trip home?


Readers will be stunned, STUNNED, to learn that (a) Janet Yellen's husband agrees with her on macroeconomic issues; (b) Robert Reich agrees with Yellen and disagrees with Nader on interest rates; and (c) Janet Yellen--the Chair of the Fed--already has an understanding of how interest rates affect people and the economy, and doesn't need her husband to tell her what to think on the matter.

Being a sexist jackass doesn't mean you're right on economic policy, Ralphie.

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brush

(53,871 posts)
2. He's still a know-it-all jerk
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:19 PM
Nov 2015

I can't believe that people still defend this narcissist on his role in Florida in 2000.

Jim__

(14,083 posts)
6. Did you follow the link to HuffingtonPost ...
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:49 PM
Nov 2015
Here.

The paragraph is there - 4th up from the last paragraph.

Jim__

(14,083 posts)
8. These are the last 4 paragraphs that I see in the letter ...
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:55 PM
Nov 2015
Chairwoman Yellen, I think you should sit down with your Nobel Prize winning husband, economist George Akerlof, who is known to be consumer-sensitive. Together, figure out what to do for tens of millions of Americans who, with more interest income, could stimulate the economy by spending toward the necessities of life.

For heaven's sake, you're a "liberal" from Berkeley! That is supposed to mean something other than to be indentured by the culture and jargon of the Federal Reserve. If you need further nudging on monetary and regulatory policies of the Fed, other than interest rate decisions, why not invite Berkeley Professor Robert Reich, one of your long-time friends and admirers, to lunch on your next trip home?

Start imagining what we, the savers, have to endure because of plutocratic, crony capitalism for which the Federal Reserve has long been a leading Tribune.

Can we expect your response?

G_j

(40,371 posts)
9. this is what I was talking about
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 01:58 PM
Nov 2015

"It has been hard having a woman lead the world's most powerful economic institution, the Federal Reserve. Federal Open Market Committee meetings have become giant cryfests, punctuated by breaks for emotional overeating. Interest-rate setting has started to align with the lunar cycle. Worst, Janet Yellen, with her small lady brain, has failed to grok that low interest rates harm savers. She'd better sit down with her husband so he can explain that to her! "

Jim__

(14,083 posts)
10. I thought you were referring to the first paragraph of her citation from Nader's letter.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 02:05 PM
Nov 2015

I didn't realize that you were referring to the Annie Lowrey's first paragraph. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. The original language from Nader is indented within the excerpt.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 02:06 PM
Nov 2015

It's paraphrasing Nader's language telling Yellen to talk to her husband to help her understand economic issues.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
13. Nader's infamously sexist and dismissive of the rights of women and GLBTQ Americans
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 02:12 PM
Nov 2015

This is a pretty good example of how sexism saturates his thinking.

he's also pretty much an idiot when it comes to economics, but that's another discussion.

The author pretty much nailed the sexism behind Nader's suggestion that the Fed Chairwoman needed her husband to explain interest rates to her.

G_j

(40,371 posts)
16. whatever he has said on other occasions, I don't know,
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 02:27 PM
Nov 2015

but you might point out what sexist remark he actually made in this letter.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. Really? You don't see the sexism in telling a woman she needs to learn
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 02:28 PM
Nov 2015

about the basics of her profession from her husband?

Let's try this:

"Senator Warren, I suggest you talk to your husband to help figure out how to pass legislation in Congress."

"Ms. Winfrey, I suggest you talk to your boyfriend about how to run a media company."

"Ms. Merkel, I suggest you talk to your husband about how to manage the Bundestag."

G_j

(40,371 posts)
19. he mentions his qualifications,
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 02:39 PM
Nov 2015

Nobel Prize winning husband, economist George Akerlof, who is known to be consumer-sensitive.

...perhaps his intent was sexist, but this doesn't nessesarly demonstrate that intent.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
20. Janet Yellen is the Chair of the Fed.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 02:44 PM
Nov 2015

She is more qualified than anyone to assess the effects of interest rates on the economy and citizens.

It is incredibly sexist to suggest that she needs men--including her husband- to explain the basics of her own job to her.

Most people--especially women--get this.

Telling women to have their husbands explain something to them is an old patriarchal favorite of sexists.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. he also made it clear he doesn't understand monetary policy or why raising interest rates
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 02:21 PM
Nov 2015

means fewer jobs.

Maybe he should ask his wife to explain it to him.

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