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Stellar

(5,644 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:07 PM Nov 2015

Watch Muhammad Ali's Perfect Response To 'Not All White People Are Racist' -- In 1971

Ali Video:- - ->http://roarsareneeded.tumblr.com/post/132601298473/deehenn-when-they-say-not-all-white-people

So often reaction to people of color who call out racism, be it police brutality or job discrimination, is the "not all white people" argument. Like "not all men," this defense is used to derail conversations about racism by reminding people of color that some white people are "good," and that not all white people are actually racist. It's a frustrating argument because it completely dismisses the lived experiences of people of color, and oversimplifies how racism actually affects us.

In a clip from a 1971 interview on the British chat show Parkinson (above) that's now gone viral on Tumblr, boxing icon Muhammad Ali perfectly explains why the existence of some "good" white people isn't always enough:


There are many white people who mean right and in their hearts wanna do right. If 10,000 snakes were coming down that aisle now, and I had a door that I could shut, and in that 10,000, 1,000 meant right, 1,000 rattlesnakes didn't want to bite me, I knew they were good... Should I let all these rattlesnakes come down, hoping that that thousand get together and form a shield? Or should I just close the door and stay safe?


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Watch Muhammad Ali's Perfect Response To 'Not All White People Are Racist' -- In 1971 (Original Post) Stellar Nov 2015 OP
One thing I know is that most "good" people are cowards and won't defend or protect from the bad AZ Progressive Nov 2015 #1
Conservatives make the exact same argument about allowing in Muslim immigrants linuxman Nov 2015 #2
Rattlesnakes, too. LanternWaste Nov 2015 #4
People aren't rattlesnakes. linuxman Nov 2015 #8
in other words.... Stellar Nov 2015 #5
Do you feel the same way about muslims? The GOP sure does. linuxman Nov 2015 #9
one of a kind and... SoLeftIAmRight Nov 2015 #3
The system is racist. Iggo Nov 2015 #6
yup, and those whom racism benefits are most resistant to changes in the system. nt La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #7
I admired and loved him from the very first moment I saw him dancing around the ring at the Olympics Samantha Nov 2015 #10
Beautifully said.... Stellar Nov 2015 #12
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #11

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
1. One thing I know is that most "good" people are cowards and won't defend or protect from the bad
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:15 PM
Nov 2015

There's a reason that bad people flourish in society and that is because the "good" people do nothing or are just cowards to organize and defend. If all good people got together and organized and took a firm stand against the bad people, the bad people would scurry away like cockroaches after turning on the light.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

In other words, the "good" people are partially at fault.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
2. Conservatives make the exact same argument about allowing in Muslim immigrants
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 11:24 PM
Nov 2015

It was as stupid an analogy/argument then as it is now.


People are individuals and should be judged on their individual merits and character. That was probably racist. Forgive me.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
4. Rattlesnakes, too.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 01:41 PM
Nov 2015

"People are individuals and should be judged on their individual merits and character..."

Rattlesnakes, too.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
8. People aren't rattlesnakes.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:49 PM
Nov 2015

Rattlesnakes are a homogenous group, with little to no variation outside of their individual species (timber, diamondback, etc). They act on instinct, and in nearly every cases, injuries sustained from one are due to the human's ignorance and foolishness. People are not held to standards of behavior and character by genetic predisposition based on what they look like. There is a term for believing that behavior is linked to race in people though. Do you remember what it is called?

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
5. in other words....
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 01:44 PM
Nov 2015

you would seek out the 1000 who want to help you and risk being murdered by the other 9000?

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
9. Do you feel the same way about muslims? The GOP sure does.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:55 PM
Nov 2015

I don't go through life assuming I'm in danger at all times because someone, somewhere, in some group may not like me. When approached by people unlike me, I judge them based on their words at first, and confirm those judgements based on their actions. I don't write off entire races of people because I've been wronged by some of their number before. I imagine it would take a pretty small person to do that.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
10. I admired and loved him from the very first moment I saw him dancing around the ring at the Olympics
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:31 PM
Nov 2015

I would have felt the same if he had been purple. Over the years, my respect for this man has multiplied over a thousand times.

I am a Caucasian white woman who spent her early years being raised in Tennessee. I believe many people of all colors regard this man as a national treasure. Much of that is because of his boxing achievements, but there is also the integrity of the man, the dignity and the willingness just to say and do what he feels is right, for example, refusing to allow himself to be drafted to fight in the Vietnam war, the cost of which was putting his boxing career on hold.

Sam

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