Democratic Socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically to meet human needs, not to make profits for a few .......
http://www.dsausa.org/

As we are unlikely to see an immediate end to capitalism tomorrow, DSA fights for reforms today that will weaken the power of corporations and increase the power of working people.
http://www.dsausa.org/about_dsa


Democratic socialist would like to see the end of capitalism. Now just imagine if you will Bernie is in the general election. The repubs tell the country with a half billion dollars worth of ads that Bernie wants to get rid of our way of life and turn this country into a socialist state.

You can kiss a liberal Supreme Court good by for the next forty years.

I will not argue the merits of Democrat Socialism here but if we try and bring it about in the 2016 election it will only put us in the hands of conservatives for rest of our lifetimes.


For the record I was a member of DSA for a number of years.

It will not be ended, but it can be regulated in a stronger way. Through regulation we can control some of the excess and greed that exist in the system. If we change the definition, and we can to something that is totally acceptable, then maybe new regulations on pollution and in other areas will be much easier to be enacted. Educating the total electorate on a humane "form of socialism" won't work, but educating the public on the needs of government to regulate the excesses of capitalism, and,...(we have already done that successfully in many areas..it ain't new, and it is necessary) will work..

Sure, there are definitions and definitions..but use what works and more important, what people clearly understand and agree on.

His still more of a populist than any other candidate and many Indys would vote for him over the Republican or Hillary.

That is why Bernie supporters turn me off. Your just so fucking blind to reality! Your belief in your utopian fantasy could destroy the demographic advantage we have now. The states are already turning right wing and you want to give the federal government over to them too!

That Bernie is a populist or that he will do better with Independents?

Do you care to actually show me how Hillary will do better when her disapproval's are so high, she's thought of as a liar and distrustful, and she creates a lot less enthusiasm than most other candidates?

Or, are you just going to say nothing?

Democratic Socialists still do not believe in ANY form of Capitalism and want no private means of production....

as opposed to Socialist Democrats that believe in Regulated Capital (a balance between Capital and Labor), a strong Social Safety Net and a Welfare State.

..I believe that we can accept "private means of productions" if profits, work safety, worker's rights are regulated. That is what I believe, and it will be accepted if that definition is utilized....Regulate profits to what society believes is a "fair level" That can be voted on and totally accepted by most in the population. Then, you don't need to own the means of production, it would be fairly regulated.................and yes, companies would still make a profit, and guess what? many are more than satisfied with 10 percent profit...and they survive...It is well known that the grocery business exists on less than 5 percent, some say 3 percent. And it is still privately owned. As much as Wall Mart is totally hated by all here, (and I understand that) it exits on less than 5 percent profit..If all companies existed on 5 percent, society would be much better off. Some pharmaceutical's get 25 to 30 percent after all expenses by charging huge mark-ups on highly needed drugs.

No you can't ....because if you do...you are then a Socialist Democrat not a Democratic Socialist.

Democratic socialism is a political ideology advocating a democratic political system alongside a socialist economic system, involving a combination of political democracy (usually multi-party representative democracy) with social ownership of the means of production.


Democratic socialism rejects the social democratic view of reform through state intervention within capitalism, seeing capitalism as inherently incompatible with the democratic values of freedom, equality, and solidarity. Democratic socialists believe that the economic contradictions inherent to capitalism can only be solved by transitioning from capitalism to socialism, by superseding private property with some form of social ownership, with any attempt to address the economic contradictions of capitalism through reforms only being likely to generate more problems elsewhere in the capitalist economy.[5][6]


Democratic socialism is usually distinguished from both the Soviet model of a centralized economy and social democracy.[2] A distinction is also made between democratic socialism and social democracy in that the former is committed to systemic transformation of the economy while the latter is not.[3] However, "democratic socialism" is sometimes improperly used as a synonym for social democracy, where "social democracy" usually refers to support for political democracy, regulation of the capitalist economy, and a welfare state.[4]

Definitions can be changed, and made friendly... Most people easily accept the regulations aspect of socialism..The means of production are not owned completely in other countries who are so called socialist. You buy a car in Denmark, and it is still made by a capitalistic company...Give it a break..We make it easy to understand and accept, then we win...and I can define it as I like..You don't have to accept it, that is ok with me..definitions change over the course of time and we all know it. A computer ain't a computer as we knew it in the 50s and 60s.... It ain't the same...thank goodness

They HAVE definitions...those are the CURRENT definitions....look them up!

You might want to make up a new one....since the one you are trying to create....already exists and has its own definition.