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Historic: Ohio Voters Just Banned Gerrymandering, Restoring Faith In Democracyby Steven Bernstein November 4, 2015
Issue 1 was sponsored by Common Cause Ohio and the League of Women Voters of Ohio to help organize fair districting in the election process, and they are jubilant over their victory. For so long, these state legislative districts have been drawn to favor one party over the other said Catherine Turcer of Common Cause. This is an amendment that does renew faith in the democratic process. Carrie Davis, executive director of the League of Women Voters of Ohio said: Ohio voters sent a clear message today They want districts to be fair and the winners to be determined by the voters.
Winners to be determined by the voters what a novel idea! Redistricting in order to gain a partisan advantage is known as gerrymandering, and has become one of the key tools in the Republican war chest to repress voters and entrench their stolen gains. Since districts are usually drawn up once in ten years based upon the census, district mapping has incredibly important long-term effects on the political process. In Ohios case that process is the responsibility of an apportionment board, made up of the governor, secretary of state, an auditor, and two legislators one from each party. However, under Issue 1, while the redistricting process is still the responsibility of the apportionment board, the new amendment ensures there will be at least two members from the minority party on the new seven-member board. There was only one Democrat on the five-member board that drew the current districts in 2011 Support from two members of the minority party is required to approve a map for the full decade. A map still can be approved by a majority vote, but without the two votes from the minority party, the whole process will have to be redone four years later not ten.
While it is hoped that by the end of four years term limits and subsequent elections will have pushed some apportionment board members out of office, the most important change is that the process is required to be fair and public. ..............
valerief
(53,235 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)"Can" is one thing, it isn't doing.
False stolen election fright is another. Destabalizing faith in election integrity in liberal niches is part of the voter suppression strategy.
valerief
(53,235 posts)HeartoftheMidwest
(309 posts)B&^^$#^t.
The opposite is true.............more elections have been stolen, based on statistical analysis and exit polling data, than anyone has stood up and protested. We, the electorate, just roll over and let it continue.
Brownback in Kansas, Bevin in Kentucky,....the list goes on and on.
If anything, the public needs to demand MORE transparency, and more reviews of questionable elections. When those elections stand up to the scrutiny by unbiased experts, and nonpartisans from both sides, THEN we can have "faith" in elections.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)You can't just declare elections stolen without proving it. Or do you just repeat other declarations of the faith variety without critical assessment?
HeartoftheMidwest
(309 posts)Funny you should word it that way.
There's already plenty of documented proof of vote suppression, vote tampering, and of outright theft of elections.
To believe otherwise would be to have FAITH that everything's fine.
Not every election is stolen. Not every election needs to be stolen.
But enough that are critical have been.
Edited for spelling....darn you, f.lux!!!!
Rex
(65,616 posts)Must be done to move away from a plutocracy.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,190 posts)And yet the Republicans here still managed to do it.
Rex
(65,616 posts)That doesn't mean shit to some and they do it anyway. Texas is horrible.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)will not be reversed by the courts. Hope, hope!
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)saturnsring
(1,832 posts)Support from two members of the minority party is required to approve a map for the full decade. A map still can be approved by a majority vote, but without the two votes from the minority party, the whole process will have to be redone four years later not ten
so every 4 years they redo the process give the minority dems the middle finger and go on for another 4 years and it cant be challenged in court
where's the benefit we only lost our right to sue over it
freshwest
(53,661 posts)They made up a district which pitted Kucinich against Kaptur, IIRC. It did not make any demograpic sense, and it was done exactly the same way to deny Democrats who were in safe districts in Texas from getting elected. That gave us Louie Gohmert and other such horrors.
I love that the League of Women Voters was heard on this and want them to moderate the state and national debates again. The media corporations have ruined them and we are left with trivia and gotcha moments.
Best example are the GOP circus with no issues talked about that effect the lives of Americans. Not even RWNJs are helped by this stuff usually, unless facism is their true goal.
May this law prove to be effective and we can start taking control back from the grifters and crooks.
SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)2- Get rid of ridiculous primary process. Nationalize it so that Iowa, NH and SC - three of the most atypical states in the nation- don't get to select the finalists or often the candidates before any other states have a say. (and I'm from SC and I know it isn't fair)
3- Get the tons of corrupting cash out of elections. I would prefer public financing, but limits on individual donors, prohibitions on corporate donors and strict accountability and transparancy would be a huge step forward.
But, of all three, what Ohio did is the most important.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,871 posts)Dem primary is a majority of black voters and the Rep primary is some of the most racist white voters in the country - neither of which relates to the national population. I can't believe that millions of voters in California and elsewhere basically have no say in the process - other than to try to buy the election if they have sufficient $$$ to do so.
My unsolicited solution: a lottery to draw all 50 states in 5 groups and then have 10 random states hold primaries every 2 weeks. Next election the first 10 go to the last primary, so after 5 elections each state has been treated equally.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)daybranch
(1,309 posts)Yes Gerrymandering in Ohio for the Ohio Senate and the Ohio House has been dramatically reduced, but do not forget that this Gerrymandering of state elections will continue until 2021 and Gerrymandering of representatives for the US House of representatives is still legal. While we celebrate this important achievement, we must turn our eys to amending the state constitution further instilling democracy. We should start right away to gather signatures to push another amendment which would both start the process in 2017 and also expand the law to cover Congressional representatives from Ohio. According to past discussions I have had with a representative of Common Cause, I know we can legally do this. Lets get started, and build upon this early victory to restore real democracy in Ohio.