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jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:14 AM Nov 2015

Obsessive Polling of Unrepresentative America Warps our Politics


It's more instructive to look at the people being polled than to look at the candidates.

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The horserace polls dominating today's political news are worse than misleading -- they're bad for democracy. They're as corrosive for America's self-image as the news industry's obsession with murder and disaster, a black hole wildly unwarranted by actual crime and catastrophe. They're as toxic to our spirit as the advertising industry's brilliant cultivation of loneliness and desire, a yearning it persuades us to slake by spending money. Worse, once the nominees are chosen, the point of poll coverage will be that, unless you live in a handful of zip codes, your vote for president is irrelevant. How's that for civic uplift?
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On top of this, in November, Electoral College arithmetic means that the highest-value voters will be swing voters in swing states. Most states are reliably red or blue. The ones that aren't, the key swing states, number -- depending on whose analysis you like -- 11 [5], seven [6], five [7] or just three [8]. Many of those states will tip one way or another by a very small margin, which means that the presidential election could be decided [9] by a crowd that wouldn't fill the Rose Bowl. Though there will be some effort to pump up the turnout of the base, most advertising buying, ground game spending and candidate scheduling will be driven by the pursuit of those undecided voters.

Next fall, if you want to know what winning the White House is about, ignore the liberal or conservative tribes. The data most worth knowing will describe people who will have spent the past two years ignoring pretty much everything that Democrats and Republicans say they stand for and will do. These Americans will be unlike you, but the difference will not be ideological. It will be the difference between being passionate about a leader who shares your beliefs, and being uninformed, disengaged, alienated, indifferent.

Just like you, they'll have only one vote to cast. But theirs will actually make a difference.


http://www.alternet.org/print/news-amp-politics/obsessive-polling-unrepresentative-america-warps-our-politics


Some interesting context on polling, which will inform some.
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Obsessive Polling of Unrepresentative America Warps our Politics (Original Post) jtuck004 Nov 2015 OP
Bing, I said to myself Fumesucker Nov 2015 #1
Yep! One can easily skew a poll anyway they want. Ask the right people, use the right "n" RKP5637 Nov 2015 #2
Really bad context, actually. Gormy Cuss Nov 2015 #3

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
2. Yep! One can easily skew a poll anyway they want. Ask the right people, use the right "n"
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 09:23 AM
Nov 2015

factor, regions and questions. Creating poll questions is literally a science. I had to take a course in it once.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
3. Really bad context, actually.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 11:05 AM
Nov 2015

For example:

Who are these 120,000 Hawkeyes, these quarter-million Granite Staters, these engaged Republicans in a small number of states whom pollsters have repeatedly surveyed in batches of a thousand? How representative are they of you or me or people we know? According to a Pew [3] Research Center study:...


Kaplan links to the political polarization study home page, not any actual data, to assert that these are the demographics of those polled in IA and NH. Apple, meet orange.

However, even if a disproportionate number of GOPers polled did match the Pew profile, the controlling variable is likelihood of voting based on demographics. For example, young people have a notoriously low voter participation rate compared to older cohorts; higher income people are much more likely to vote than low income people. Pollsters know this, and honest pollsters take these and other factors into account when structuring the sample. The national mood may favor candidate A over candidate B but if likely voters favor B, guess who wins the race?

Kaplan does make a good point: use your damn voting right regardless of what the media or polls say. Being disengaged from the process is part of the problem.
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