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pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:44 PM Nov 2015

A poppy is cheap; remembrance and solidarity are not



(About Pierre Purseigle: Marie Curie Research Fellow at Yale University and Trinity College Dublin (2013-2016). Associate Professor at the University of Warwick. President, International Society for First World Studies)

I don’t wear a poppy. I respect those who do and I know and appreciate the essential work that charities like the British Legion do all year around. Now of course, I am a left-wing academic and not even British; “typical EU migrant scum spitting on the graves of Britain’s squaddies” would no doubt eruct the Daily Express.

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Whether you believe that war is a legitimate instrument of policy or a criminal aberration does not matter. For we all share an overwhelming and rather shameful reluctance to confront the realities of war. Handing out white feathers or shouting “not in my name” does not really cut it in my view. These are rather easy positions to take and defend. But politics and indeed war are a much messier business. I don’t have any easy answer to offer and I struggle with these questions as much as anybody else. There is only so much that history can do for you.

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We know that the armed forces predominantly recruit among the working and lower-middle classes, from the very communities that the regressive policies of George Osborne and David Cameron have consistently undermined for over 5 years. We know that many returning veterans struggle to find employment; that many suffer from alcohol and drug abuse; that a significant number will be sleeping rough in the streets of Britain tonight. There is no quick and easy fix to the multitude of psychological, medical, and social problems that many veterans and their families still face today. Charity helps, but it is not enough. The state and the taxpayer must take their responsibility. It is all well and good to ask Premier League millionaires to wear a poppy every November. But why don’t we expect them or indeed other wealthy professionals and rentiers to pay more taxes to fund the national health service and colleges, job centers and universities?

http://ww1centenary.oucs.ox.ac.uk/memoryofwar/a-poppy-is-cheap-remembrance-and-solidarity-are-not/
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A poppy is cheap; remembrance and solidarity are not (Original Post) pokerfan Nov 2015 OP
"As we express our gratitude, we must never forget . . . Journeyman Nov 2015 #1
Always true, whatever the war, whatever the country. LongTomH Nov 2015 #2
It dovetails with the President's remarks earlier today pokerfan Nov 2015 #3

Journeyman

(15,039 posts)
1. "As we express our gratitude, we must never forget . . .
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:55 PM
Nov 2015
[center]"As we express our gratitude,
we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words,
but to live by them."


~John F. Kennedy

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
2. Always true, whatever the war, whatever the country.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 03:59 PM
Nov 2015

My WWII vet uncles all had problems with the bottle. All of these brave gentlemen had the experience, in early manhood, of having very unreasonable people shooting at them, and of seeing the horrors of war.

I remember making a comment to my uncle John about the terrible things the Nazis did in the war; he quietly replied: "Americans did some terrible things too!"

I didn't press him on this. It's not that I was afraid of him; Uncle John was a gentle man; but, from his tone, I knew this was something he didn't want to talk about.

None of them talked much about their war experiences until late in life. It was very late in his life that my Uncle Robert related a story that Uncle John had told him. Uncle John's company commander had the entire company march around the perimeter of one of the death camps (I think it was Auschwitz) and told them to remember what they had seen there.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
3. It dovetails with the President's remarks earlier today
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 04:37 PM
Nov 2015
Speaking at the Arlington National Cemetery, Obama repeated multiple times that while it is right to have ceremonies and parades on Veterans Day to recognize the troops, “our tributes will ring hollow if we stop there.”

“This day is not only about gratitude for what they have done for us,” he said. “It is also a reminder of all that they still have to give to our nation and our duty to them.”

Obama said the government has a responsibility to care for veterans, and he also called on citizens to do their part by reminding the nation how valuable veterans can be in the workplace.

“If you want to get the job done, hire a vet. If you’re a business that needs team players that know how to lead and execute an idea, hire a vet,” Obama said. “Every sector, every industry, every community can benefit from the incredible talents of our veterans.”

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/obama-push-congress-veteran-care-reforms
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