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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo if Trump wins the nomination and loses next year,...
...will it FINALLY put to rest that incredibly fucking stupid line of thinking amongst Republican voters that the reason they keep losing presidential elections is because their nominees aren't conservative enough?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)And point out his support of Democrats.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)A lot of Republicans think Trump is a Democratic Trojan horse, planted specifically to hand the WH to his friend Hillary. Many of them don't consider him conservative.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)other fuckwits on several issues.
Quixote1818
(28,979 posts)I think that is part of the reason they are willing to give going far to the right a shot this time but it's a losing strategy. I just wonder if the Republican party is going to break apart eventually? It's so fucked up right now and it's going to get harder and harder to win with their anti-immigrant stances but the Tea Baggers are so hard headed they will abandon the party if it does. When that happens the Tea Bagger / Evangelical nuts may just start sitting out elections and Republicans will be more like they use to be. Sooner or later they are going to have to start courting the Hispanics like Bush did. On the other hand Republicans are doing quite well on the local level.
ffr
(22,672 posts)What we have to work on is getting Democrats to vote for down-ticket candidates. Run the tables on the GOP.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)that think they can become falsely conservative enough to win the election.
Those are the people we have got to vote out of office, and reject as people that represent our party and its constituency.
Those are the ones that pretend to be allies while stabbing true Democrats in the back.
M.G.
(250 posts)If Trump wins the primary and loses the general, expect Conservatives to say the problem was that Trump wasn't a real Conservative, he was too soft on social issues too attract the Evangelical vote (i.e., he has admitted Planned Parenthood has done good work) he was basically a liberal who happened to be tough on illegal immigration, etc, etc.
It would take a debacle in which an absolute right-wing maniac, someone like Ted Cruz, got unambiguously shellacked by a Democratic candidate for conservatives to admit that their ideas had lost in the popular mind.
pampango
(24,692 posts)A true far-right believer will never believe that an election was lost because the candidate was not right wing enough.
Solly Mack
(90,787 posts)EL34x4
(2,003 posts)Trump isn't particularly conservative. His proposals for carried interest and capital gains tax hikes certainly aren't conservative positions. He's only recently discovered his pro-gun and anti-abortion stances, and these are lukewarm at best. MSNBC has called Trump 2016's most gay-friendly Republican. He attends church only a couple of times a year.
The people over at that other site supporting Ted Cruz don't think Trump is a conservative at all.
DFW
(54,445 posts)What has he said that he is interested in conserving?
Trump's main goal appears to be to have himself as the center of attention. Once he's bored with this, he'll go do something else, and when Ben Carson is left at the top, he'll go the way of Herman Cain. Then Rubio will have to fight against the second wind of Jeb, Cruz and Kasich.
If I were Adelson, a Koch, or a high up in the RNC, I'd bury my face in my hands in despair at this point, and say, "oh no, not AGAIN!"