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cap

(7,170 posts)
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:15 AM Nov 2015

One question about retaliating against ISIS

How do we pay for it?

We are in debt --our debt/GNP ratio is still around 100%. Interest rates are gonna rise...so debt will go up.

We want a working health care system and we don't want Medicare, Medicaid and SOcial Security to be cut. We need to deal with climate change.


Wars ain't cheap. Supporting other people's wars ain't cheap. Enhanced security ain't cheap, neither.

So how's this all going to happen?

Do we go on a war time footing like WWii? Rationing, etc. Do we give up IPads,Walmart, cable, Starbucks and all the trappings of consumerism?

A lot of our goods which used to be durable are now disposable ... So we have to replace a lot of them. There is a limit on thrift store shopping....

A lot of folks are living in poverty as it is.

My point is our life will radically change. So what is going to give?

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One question about retaliating against ISIS (Original Post) cap Nov 2015 OP
Silly you. 99Forever Nov 2015 #1
I wonder if we even write a check for each $58K drone-fired Hellfire missile KeepItReal Nov 2015 #2
I am posing this question quite seriously cap Nov 2015 #3
What budgetary constraints? KeepItReal Nov 2015 #4
A real coalition with other countries pitching in. tabasco Nov 2015 #5
Since we're running on expanding the safety net it's probably a bad idea... Shandris Nov 2015 #6
They'll probably just give the troops a one way ticket CJCRANE Nov 2015 #7

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
1. Silly you.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:21 AM
Nov 2015

Doncha know we ALWAYS gots plenty of cash for war? Just break out the ol'credit cards, hand them to the War Pigs and send the bills to the poor and middle class.

See? No problem.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
2. I wonder if we even write a check for each $58K drone-fired Hellfire missile
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:26 AM
Nov 2015

Lockheed Martin probably just gets one of those Iraq war style pallets of cash

cap

(7,170 posts)
3. I am posing this question quite seriously
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:29 AM
Nov 2015

Finance provides the iron limits on choices.

We have to provide more real security...I think pacifists agree at least temporarily. We want real security, not handouts to war pigs. Auditing defense contracts and limiting campaign contributions by all government contractors, federal state and local, is a logical first step.

After that, what next?

What can we realistically do... we should we do given our budgetary constraints?

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
4. What budgetary constraints?
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:19 PM
Nov 2015

When the active military and its suppliers have unlimited budgets and have weapons acquisitions they don't want or need forced on them by Congress (more drones than operators or missions, for instance), I don't see any fiscal constraints.

Constraints are only for things that will help the masses - infrastructure spending, education spending, social services and the like.

"Deficits don't matter." - VP Dick Cheney

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
5. A real coalition with other countries pitching in.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:20 PM
Nov 2015

Not a sham "coalition" like the Bush/Cheney cabal put together for the Iraq invasion.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
6. Since we're running on expanding the safety net it's probably a bad idea...
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:22 PM
Nov 2015

...to run around flailing that we can't afford to keep up our NATO obligations. That's a career-limiting move. It also emboldens militias, who will then be 'necessary' since 'clearly the government can't police the borders and now we have more refugees so guess we'll have to do it'.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
7. They'll probably just give the troops a one way ticket
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 12:22 PM
Nov 2015

leave them over there, saves on the healthcare when they get back.

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