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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat is the non violent way forward?
Personally, I'm not sure there is one. I have never seen any possibility of finding compromise with fanatics - religious or otherwise - of any stripe. When the fanatics are hellbent on destroying you, what options remain?
fəˈnadik/
noun
noun: fanatic; plural noun: fanatics
1. a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for an extreme religious or political cause.
synonyms: zealot, extremist, militant, dogmatist, devotee, adherent; More
sectarian, bigot, partisan, radical, diehard;
informal: maniac
"a religious fanatic"
informal: a person with an obsessive interest in and enthusiasm for something, especially an activity.
"a fitness fanatic"
adjective
adjective: fanatic
1. filled with or expressing excessive zeal.
"his fanatic energy"
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Or any number of situations where someone wants to act violently? Sometimes you have to use force. One should always work toward a peaceful, non violent solution of course. But, it it's not possible then one has to work toward inflicting the least amount of harm especially on people that are innocent. That being said I will not lose sleep over dead terrorists. But, I do weep for some of the misguided efforts in the war against terrorism.
Donald Ian Rankin
(13,598 posts)The choice facing Iraq and Syria is not violence vs non-violence, it's violence with Western involvement vs violence without Western involvement.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Start with water and hospitals, go from there...farms, schools, factories...
Better than destroying, which just begets more destruction, like killing does.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Can you explain what exactly you are envisioning here?
cap
(7,170 posts)Also China is the lowest cost and increasingly best value contractor for large scale projects.
Not nixing your proposal but just pointing out trade offs.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Start with Iran for what we did in 1953 and Guatemala for 1954 and work forward.
Edward Bernays, 'Father of Modern Propaganda,' helped CIA overthrow democracy in Guatemala in 1954. Please scroll down to pages 10-12 for specifics:
http://www.slideshare.net/PatrickWarren09/use-of-propaganda-in-the-cia-controlled-guatemalan-revolution-of-1954-removed-a-democratically-elected-leader-7291102
oberliner
(58,724 posts)In fact, American-made schools and factories could even be seen as provocative in places where we have caused damage.
elias49
(4,259 posts)The alternative is in our faces.
madokie
(51,076 posts)would be a good start.
The whole of the bush/cheney administration would be where to find them
ananda
(28,877 posts)... get rid of those 3 billion barrels of oil and
move to clean, alternative energy, leaving us
no fucking reason at all to stay in the ME,
where we have no business interfering anyway.
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)Empires were still built. Wars were still fought.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,219 posts)Quit buying their oil and quit selling them anything, especially military equipment.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)That will take lots of intelligence work, international diplomatic "violence" etc. It will be far more effective than a direct armed response - but not as viscerally satisfying of course.
madokie
(51,076 posts)You hit the nail square on the head with this one.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Seek out ways to integrate disaffected immigrant populations instead of marginalizing them
Work towards humanitarian goals in the ME, not military goals.
Get our troops out of the ME - we're doing far, far more damage being there wreaking havoc
Move the world off oil and onto renewables asap