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Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:24 AM Nov 2015

It seems like a lot of the xenophobia here is based on ignorance of the refugee resettlement program

that the United States runs.

Here's a link that leads to other links to guide you:

http://www.iistl.org/refugee.html

The fact of the matter is this isn't opening the floodgates, but rather letting through those that the State Department are comfortable do not pose a threat to any citizen. There's an extensive background and security check that takes up to 2 years or more, in addition, the United States is somewhat unusual in that it offers permanent residence to refugees who go through with this process. As a result, we have a relatively high retention rate of refugees who stay and contribute to the economy, and they then, as permanent residents can sponsor relatives to immigrate as well. This is, more or less, how we got 50,000 Bosnian(90-95% Muslim) refugees and immigrants in St. Louis.

Its far more likely that terrorists will come from one of two sources, homegrown and those coming in on legal visas. You obviously can fly completely under the radar as an American citizen who wants to commit terrorist acts here until you commit the act, and travel visas don't require nearly as much vetting as refugee permanent residence does.

No one is saying that reasonable precautions shouldn't be made, but we just have to make sure they are reasonable.

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It seems like a lot of the xenophobia here is based on ignorance of the refugee resettlement program (Original Post) Humanist_Activist Nov 2015 OP
That's all very well Waiting For Everyman Nov 2015 #1
Considering that my neighbors are those thousands who were, before, vetted by the same process... Humanist_Activist Nov 2015 #6
If we tremble at every threat, we will never do what is right and humane. Koinos Nov 2015 #2
That and rjsquirrel Nov 2015 #3
I doubt they can do a 2 year extensive background check on 10's of thousands of refugees FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #4
They have been able to handle large volumes before, during and after the Balkans conflict... Humanist_Activist Nov 2015 #5

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
1. That's all very well
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:59 AM
Nov 2015

but how do you vet someone who has no papers? What are we going to do, call up Assad and ask for a background check?

Or maybe we'll rely on some bureaucrat's judgment that someone is "safe"? Because I'd so be willing to bet my life or my neighbors' on that (not!).

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
6. Considering that my neighbors are those thousands who were, before, vetted by the same process...
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:25 PM
Nov 2015

and I'm as safe as any other American citizen, I would trust the judgement of those with the experience and expertise to check such things over mindless hysteria.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
2. If we tremble at every threat, we will never do what is right and humane.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:59 AM
Nov 2015

It is right and humane to give refuge to innocents who suffer.

Humanity, compassion, and love -- not wealth and power or even technology -- are what make us human.

From a practical point of view, it is doable to screen refugees. Those most likely to harm us are not fully screened Syrian refugees, but domestic and foreign "terrorists" who already dwell here.

As mass killings multiply stateside, it appears we have most to fear from "native born" Americans with an attitude and too many guns.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
3. That and
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:45 AM
Nov 2015

White privilege.

There's about a dime's worth of difference between tea party xenophobic bigotry and what you often find around DU. Which is to say there's so many ignorant people drawn to online political discussion regardless of party.

Xenophobia is as American as apple pie.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
4. I doubt they can do a 2 year extensive background check on 10's of thousands of refugees
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 08:24 AM
Nov 2015

No way the State Department is staffed to handle the volume people have been proposing to let enter.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
5. They have been able to handle large volumes before, during and after the Balkans conflict...
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:23 PM
Nov 2015

for example. Don't see why they can't now, that's a funding and staffing issue.

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