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laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:40 PM Nov 2015

Equitable Christianity: Son Seeks to Evict Father From Home

Last edited Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:30 AM - Edit history (2)

This is a tale of woes that appears to have become the norm in America. Senior citizens are often (in the Rethuglican era way of modern day America) abused as desires may be, for the sake of bilking parents of their hard earned, life savings, monies.

About a year ago, moi took on another senior citizens case, where it was obvious there was a need, but no one seemed to care to fill it. This guy (Stan) is one with a kind heart, but somewhat to affable and a little gullible. Having a work ethic extraordinary, at age 72, Stan would do odd jobs, for anyone, for very little money. Each and every week, he would travel to see his son and grandchildren.

Amazingly, Stan's son did a video recording piece, at their church, on how his dad serves a ministry to others at casino's. Then, as a reward for good deeds, Stan's son is now trying to evict his father (who sleeps on a couch).
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Having oligarchs as adversaries isn't any joy. Every single biz venture moi tried to develop, was assaulted by the powers that be, to make sure I'm not gathering strength in the battles against them. Hence, for the last decade, my efforts had to be in an area that even my enemies wouldn't dare to meddle. Since 2004, I've been helping senior citizens battle bad faith parties (more often than not - family members), who try to steal their lifetime savings (doing so under "color of law&quot .

Sadly, senior citizen centers have closed, left and right, giving the elderly very little places to seek guidance.

Adriana's Son Steals Her Life Savings

For months at a time, I had to sleep in my car and storage locker, using my money to help others. One case was an 87 year old woman, Adriana Goldstein. I had to rescue her and put her up at a hotel (because her son stole her life savings).

While his dad was on his way off this 3rd rock from the sun, Adriana's child rolled her husband into the bank and had him sign over the business and accounts to the wicked sibling. The son steals everything, for loose living, including Adriana's 2 decades of Social Security that was saved away!

I met Adriana by accident, on a high holiday, where moi was in a non kosher restaurant and Adriana overheard me apologizing about not being a "practicing" yid. Upon leaving the restaurant, the lady hostess called me and thanked me for taking the time to talk to Adriana, who was suffering from her 3rd cancer battle (at that time pancreatic); and was going in for an operation wondering if she died during such, if anyone would even know where they buried her.

Needless to say, I turned my car around and gave Adriana my phone number (letting her adopt me).

Adriana was left with nothing and had been paying 1/2 her little Social Security to sleep on a couch; but she suffered from psychological abuse. A very wicked (bible thumping) woman rented Adriana a couch. During the winter, this wicked witch nailed down the windows and pulled the fuse from the electric heaters. Then she would heat the house by the "gas oven" door being open.

Adriana was a suffering Jewish woman, with Holocaust era memories horrific (including having to lay down, with her son, in a pile of dead bodies, where the Nazi's killed everyone in the town).

Fortunately, Adrian, , suffering from her 4th cancer battle, now 97, has been, for the last several years, at a better place.

Sadly, her son has never visited (as far as I know) and Adriana just wants to move on!

Bob Elias being Evicted by Bob Elias

After getting her stable, Bob Elias, a Lebanese man in his 80's, was being evicted by his sons (Ben and Bob Jr.), who were Jewish. If it had been 2 Lebanese kids throwing out a Jewish old man .... well..., hence, being a late blooming yid myself (story for another day), it seemed only right that I take on the case.

The kids were born in the house and never had to work a day in their lives; because Bob Sr., had a wife who had been prudent with the savings from Sr., life long job at Universal Studios. Because Bob Sr., was dyslexic, his wife took care of everything paperwork wise. Upon her demise (due to Fen Phen), the kids (apparently) drummed up a will that evicted Bob Sr., from the house.

Law makers know that children tend to get greedy. Had Mr. Elias chosen better counsel (one regularly experienced in California Probate), there's a Law that protect seniors from this elderly abuse; which permits total eviction of greedy kids, for at least 60 days, after a spouse's demise.

After the kids squandered approximately $2 million, they went after their father's last remaining asset - the house. Yours truly moved in the day before the eviction was to happen. Through much works and many court appearances, Bob Elias Sr., was able to stay in his house, for another year. It cost me $10,000.00, but we were able to get 2 Restraining Orders for physical, financial and emotional abuse.

Justice wasn't served though, as the kids got the house and even went after their fathers personal belongings.

Fortunately, that judge - is no longer there!
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Stan's Son Seeks to Evict Father to Fleece Inheritance
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And now there's a sweet heart guy, who won my assistance for free, when he literally gave the shirt off his back, along with his last $22, to a homeless guy who had his bike stolen. Though he is a die-hard LameBlah listener, Stan still is overjoyed to tell others that he is helping in the fight against Robney (RMoney Mitt).

Stan's work ethic is exceptional. So much so that he recently wound up in the V.A. Hospital as a result of working 9 hours in the 94 degree sun, without a moments rest, after helping another senior citizen (who lived in his van), to get back on the road.

After Stan losing his arguments with me, to stubbornly refuse to go to the hospital, he was immediately put into I.C.U. (critical care) for his heart beat and blood pressure readings being off the charts.

While Stan was in the hospital, his deplorable son abused him by seizing the monies ever which way he could.

Knowing that he liked to gamble, Stan had his inheritance, from his father, split between his sister and son, for safe keeping. The sister got the Burbank house (paid for) that he was born and raised in; which would pass on to Stan (if his sister would pass on 1st). There was also several hundred thousand dollars in cash that 1/2 stayed with sis and the other 1/2 to his son, for safe keeping.
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Stan's son now believes in squatters rights to his father's fortune.
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According to Stan, originally, the son did a misdeed, of putting the monies into the stock market (without Stan's permission). Stan told me that his son refused to cash out the substantial profit; and then 9/11 hit and the profit turned into a big loss. Of the considerable negative resulting, it was mutually agreed to buy a house, in Long Beach, CA - with the remaining monies.

For over a dozen years now, Stan has permitted one of his 3 retirement checks, to go directly to his son's address, to pay the mortgage on the Long Beach home. At the barest of minimums, with the house being acquired at approximately $250,000.00, with 13 years of payments always on time, and the house now being worth around $500K; this means there is (at least) a couple of hundred thousands of dollars in equity.

But Stan's son says it's now none of his father's business and the son is trying to evict his father!

You won't believe this, unless you actually see it, but Stan has been paying the mortgage, electricity, insurance, taxes, sewer repair, appliance repairs, lawn and everything else... so that Stan can sleep on a couch.

Yeah - I know - said you wouldn't believe it (but it's true)....

One bedroom belongs to the former girlfriend, who has been there (rent free) for a decade now. Stan also has a couple of other roommates (house is 3 bdrm), including this one who was a 1 time girlfriend (for just 1 night). The son, who himself had an affair that he disclosed to his father, constantly bible brow beats the father for having a one time stand with the roommate.

Another bedroom belongs to a handicap guy who was actually in the Wizard of Oz film (and who had an attorney rip him off all his life monies of $400,000). The other bedroom is the caretaker of the handicap guy (who is also caretaker of his own sister - as well). So Stan sleeps on the couch (that he actually claims to love as his bed).

While Stan was in critical care at the V.A. Hospital, his son goes into the house (that was put in his son's name, in case Stan would ever pass away - making an easy transition), and the nice, caring, brag at his church about his father - dear sweet son - signs the renters to leases; and takes the money away from Stan.

Yours truly quickly points out that this is abuse!

So, the son, with wife in tow, comes to the house (after he lands the plane he co-owns) and insists on meeting me at Starbucks. During the meeting, the son and wife pull out rental comps, to show me how Stan his paying below average rent.

To which I reply that "you can't bark to me about how much 'rent' Stan is paying for his own house".

After chit chats back and forth, both the wife and son, simultaneously, confess to me that it is Stan's equity. Then they explain that they are saving the money for Stan's ill health days and to prevent him from gambling it away.

PUHLLLEEAAASSEEE - Stan did not one - but 2 - I.C.U. stays and has near ZERO medical bills.

Fact of the matter is, not only does Stan have his SSI and 2 pension checks (local & national, lifetime Steelworkers); but Stan is also a Veteran. Hence, all he has to pay for a massive hospital stay (thus far) is some medicines (and that is being rectified in adding Medicare part {only allowed - for some weird reason - to be applied for Jan. through March). Outside of that, the only other bill has been the ambulance trip (for his second emergency).

Stan explained to me that every time he spoke with his son, about equity in the house, the son would refuse to go into details.

Also, Stan has a (bad) habit, of borrowing, at high interest, whenever the whim hits him to have some fun. Using my abilities to solve problems, I advised Stan (who always made his payments on time, for over a dozen years - but hasn't had a credit card of his own for 30 years) to get his affairs in order and reduce his interest expense and also get credit for his paying loan payments.

Stan now has 2 credit cards, after his score climbed from 422 to 630

When I told his son that I've done all I can do, to help his father get his affairs in order and that the son now needs to step up and help Stan pay off $13,000 in high interest loans (that were being perpetuated prior to my arrival), needless to say, Stan's son blew a gasket and screamed at (his high blood pressure) father and myself.

Then, the dear sweet kind and considerate son responded, by post a "3 day pay or quit" notice on his father's house.

Originally, the son had agreed with me and Stan, to take the $600 per month that he took away from Stan (upon signing a lease with the 2 guys in the bedrooms), to pay tax bills (created by the son asking Stan to reduce the withholding from Stan's retirement check that was sent directly to the son).

Now that the tax bill is (purportedly) paid, the son refuses to give back Stan - the monies.

As a result, of Stan having no money remaining, from his retirement checks, due to his loan and son keeping all the monies situation, moi asked my attorney to help Stan, for a small contingency to be paid "if" Stan could get some monies from his son.

That counsel advised Stan to seek a Restraining Order (that was granted - until we have a full trial on November 25th).

So, come Thanksgiving week, the family will not be having a get together. Either the judge will make it clear to Stan's son that there needs to be a compromise (Stan is still willing to let his son have 1/2 of the equity) - OR - the judge will rule that the son can evict Stan from his own house.

Even if - arguendo - you grant the son the perverse logic that the house belongs to the son, then there is a FRAUD afoot. For the son has deceived his father to "believe" that Stan was paying the mortgage on Stan's own home, for over a dozen years.

Surely, if the son could rent out the bedrooms to people he doesn't even know, for $300 per month, utilities included (plus free laundry soap and toilet paper that Stan has paid for, all these years), then the son most kindly wouldn't rent out to Stan for any more than that..

Or would he?

One night, right before we sought the restraining order, Stan's son said he wanted to see his father and resolve the issues; and that he would give Stan the $13,000.00 he needed to pay off the loans. For, in so doing, Stan would be debt free and have enough money to enjoy his quality of life - remaining.

Instead - the son came to the house and picked up his father (insisting that he see dad - alone); and then the son tried to have Stan sign a lease, for $750.00 per month, for Stan to give away his rights and pay such - To Sleep On the Couch!

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CONCLUSION
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Because the son tried this stunt of sending a 3 day pay or quit notice, we're responding (in kind) by having the Sheriff serve the son the Restraining Order (he lives in circle end, with life long neighbors on each side). It is my hope and prayer that the son seeks competent legal counsel, who will advise him - correctly - to settle with pop. My counsel is willing to fly in; but the California legal system is staunchly against out of state lawyers representing parties.

Stan's son keeps saying the money is needed, in case Stan goes into a long hospital stay. Moi responded in stating that "all you do is banter, banter and obfuscate, and - at the end of the day - the Christian is stealing his dad's monies. Doesn't your bible command you to do just the opposite?"

As for the "corbin" (doing it for g=d premise), gambling isn't illegal;

and the father forgave the son for the impermissible stock market - GAMBLE!


It is all So wretched and I'm hoping for a considerate judge who is prudent (very hard to find these days).

We'll see!
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Sick, wicked son, goes through with the full trial on evicting his father from his father's own house. Fortunately, we get a decent judge who has no tolerance for bullchit and has "some" sympathy for pro se parties who appear to have a plausible defense.

Plausible defense's, still don't guarantee any defendant's will get vindication!

Unfortunately, though this son and his wife had confessed to yours truly, of it being the father's house and the father's equity, they found unscrupulous legal advice that said "house is in your name - so technically, you can screw your father, if you want to {may just run the 70ish year old into an early grave and hit the jackpot}. So, though plaintiff (wicked son) who is a high ranking executive at a bankish thingy, own lawyer was smart enough not to all plaintiff to call his wife as witness - yours truly did so for them.

Of course, the wife lied and is now guilty of perjury (should the tape of conversation arise - convicting).

Meanwhile, one can bet that the wibitch is royally pissed at hubby, of the fact that she had to lie for them (and hopefully the prick won't get any - for a long while).

So the trial, one that plaintiff's counsel told court would only take 20 minutes, rolls over from the morning and has to continue after lunch. But prior to the begin of the trial, in the morning, plaintiff and defendant have to exchange evidence. Wicked son's counsel knows they are caught lying (where the eviction papers say "oral" agreement), so the plaintiff's asks to amend and we object (as the Plaintiff's complaint is already marked "amended&quot ; but the judge looks in a book, cites some code and amends the complaint for plaintiff.

Now, me and the old guy are worried greatly.....

Then, plaintiff has to amend again, when I point out that the new written one states price is $1550; but the eviction papers say $1515. And judge says that since he is allowing the "written" old lease in (for 1 year in 2008) - he can allow the written part about amounts.

UH OH - things are looking bad for ye old guy and his personal assistant.

So, now defendants (moi and the son's dad) get to put on our case. I asked the judge if we might use the same exhibits of the plaintiff, as evidence for defendant. He says they can't take back the evidence that "they" submitted.

COOL!

We take the "written" lease that says that the rent is not past due, until late charge, after 5th day. Also, we point out that the 3day pay or quit, was on the 3rd day and argue it is premature. Then we point out that the fact that son is doing a bizarre argument that we were paying $1500 per month for 13 years; and became bad faith non payers THIS month, because we refused son's attempt to reduce rent to $750 per month.

PUHHHLLLLEEEAAASSEEE!

Then we point out that the son has testified his sole purpose for evicting his father, is to get me (dad's elder abuse advocate) out of the house. Son admits that - While his dad (tenant) was IN the Hospital - son (landlord) went into the house and signed leases with the 3 roommates, for the address of the house.

Yours truly points out to the court that the eviction papers are for the father (tenant) at the same house;
(hence - landlord cut out middle man while tenant was in hospital - with plan to rid tenant of particular friend).

Closing arguments of plaintiff's counsel is that this is a simple case of renter not paying rent.

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Yours truly closes by saying, this is far from a simple case, it involves the distasteful dynamic of a son evicting his father, for the goal of getting rid of the person assisting the father against abuse. More specifically, the landlord hijacked the subtenants illegally, while 13 year tenant was in hospital and the landlord's seeks to use this court to prove his dad is incapable of handling himself and that this eviction court is the wrong venue to try to prove father is non compus mentas.

Judge responded "we said and you are correct".

Then we finished by my stating the son rented the house out, by leases, to 4 parties - and the leases are each for the entire house - not rooms a, b, c and d (being the couch dad sleeps on). And that plaintiff has argued incongruously the father using the garage, bathroom and kitchen means $750 per month for couch rental is fair value. And - being that son has admitted renting out 3 bedrooms to others for $300, the rent for a couch at $750 is absurd.

His Honor said he will take it under review and mail out his answer.

We are now in a coin flip and moi will update this story when that decision has been made

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On a side note, 3 other people came up to me and asked me to help them with their cases.

Meanwhile, here's another issue. Do you let this wicked son off the hook, when you know he told you one thing and he/ his wife - lied in court? Am I, a guy who has become a warrior against the likes of Mitt, to simply abandon this old man "if" the son wins the case of evicting his old man?

For REAL!

Nope, sorry, I'm not that kind of guy.

The old man gives me $300 a month for driving him 7 days a week and handling all of his financial affairs (dad's own bank, after 30 years, just gave him a Bank Credit Card and he now feels like he is a real guy). And I've become attached to the guy, where I help make sure he takes his heart medication, his Carnosine (very good publicly available substance for those who suffer memory lapses).

Even though the old guy has to borrow money from me, moi paid for his vacation at brand new hotel.

OH - by the way - son tried to call Sheriff and make me look like the bad guy. When police called dad to see if he was okay, I told police where we were staying, what was really going on and that it was none of the (landlord's) business where the tenant was that week.

Police dropped the case.

However, we have a great case against the son - who has been FORGING his father's signature on dad's pension check, for 13 years - WITHOUT any power of attorney (you know - that get out of jail free card - thingy).

Also, son is so stupid that his counsel is investigating me, with the son, and says I have to redact this story.

EAAANNNTTT.

No name of son, no last names, no specific dates or locations. Just general facts, telling the truth, as it transpires. And, speaking of truths, the genius son had head of security of the lending institution also investigate yours truly (we have picture proof and the name of security person).

Can anyone say invasion of privacy for a bad faith purpose?

On top of that, the brilliant executive, who owns his own plane and is supposed to be very sophisticated, was dumb enough to sign leases with the other roommates and put the son's workplace address on those leases.

Uh Oh!

Finally, there's another little thingy that doesn't bode well for the son, his signing/ forging his dad's signature on the pension checks may have another problem. If you are willing to steal from your own father, chances are you are also willing to evade taxes by not reporting your father's checks as rental income. We ran out of time to ask that question, in court the other day and I really regret that chance to watch him squirm when the judge would order the son to answer the friggin question. Tax "evasion" for 13 years, at $18,000 plus per year, with penalties and interest, would turn $250,000.00 monies gained, into a possible (if allowed to occur) "Offer in Compromise" of $1 million.

So, when we sue the wicked kid and his wife (he co-owns house and monies stolen from dad), the first thing we are going to seek to compel, is production of tax records for last 13 years.

What do you think will happen then?

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Just sayin..................
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yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. Out of 320 million of us, there are certainly stories like this
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:56 PM
Nov 2015

Every situation possible occurs somewhere in America. We're a huge population with all kinds of good and bad.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
3. When I was working, I was pretty flush. and after my father died,
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 01:58 PM
Nov 2015

my mother had a hard time keeping the house up,. I offered to buy it from her and to let her live in it as long as she wanted, I never wanted to steal it from her, I had money in investments that could have been turned over and invested in her house, one place to invest was as good as another. But stories like this were featured in the papers, and she decided not to do it, I got money to her other ways, like lying about how much I spent taking her on vacation so she could afford to go with me, but was kind of hurt she did not trust me. However I could see my brothers doing something like this. I don't understand stealing from parents, my parents loved us and sacrificed so much to give us a good life, they deserved good pay back.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
5. Good for you..... We need many more like you.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 02:25 PM
Nov 2015

My father left when I was 10 and I didn't see him again, until 18. After a while, becoming very successful, I tried to give him the monies to go to Florida and become a R.E. Broker - there. He refused and said I've got a lot to learn about social graces. So, my gift to my dad was never holding him to account for his wrongs upon us kids (he had many wives and I've got siblings I've never met).

I called him nearly every week, listening to him telling me what was wrong with my life (he hated Obama).

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Other cases I've worked, also include brothers stealing from sister (Sturman case); and Trustee's stealing from everyone.

We are a nation of bandits, running amok, because that is what the courts really do....

They have NO moral compass.

Only allegiance to money and power!

dembotoz

(16,820 posts)
6. happens all the time and there ain't much you can do
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 02:57 PM
Nov 2015

father in law lives in nevada getting fleeced by his sister.
court all cool with arrangement

we live in midwest have no standing so we do not exist.....
just watch it happen...

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
8. Son decided to ignore the Restraining Order and is continuing with Eviction
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:24 PM
Nov 2015

Guy is a real pathetic tool and I hope his plane rusts - while on the ground.

(think he borrowed money from his father's house, to buy the plane).

Court's don't take kindly, to those that disrespect their orders;
and he's a manager of a financial institution.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
9. By the way - the kid thinks he won - but he is soon to be undone
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:10 AM
Nov 2015

Counsel said they have 4 Aces and we have 7 deuce off suit...

Then why did the judge say the old guy needs an elder abuse counsel;
and the son say it was the worst 3 weeks of his life and is having family members
call the old man - to beg him not to sue.

(Moi is about to break that record - by the way)

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There are outstanding issues - should all the facts be "compelled" to court - that don't bode well for unjust enrichment'ers.

And - that evicting pops - EAAANNNNTT.... you cant start a 3 day pay or quit

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laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
10. Having quad Aces...
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:11 AM
Nov 2015

Doesn't do any good - when 2 of them came from - illegally being up your sleeve.







 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
12. It took 15 years to finally get a new chance to nail Romney, how many years to nail this wicked son
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:36 AM
Dec 2015

All we asked of this greedy kid, is for him to give $13,000 to his father, of his dad's equity, to pay off father's bills, so that the man who has already gone to ICU - twice, for his heart - could enjoy his end of days.

Pig said NO!

Now, this genius, a Valedictorian at some swanky school, chooses to do battle with me!

Genius....

I've got Romney's secret attorney, Paul Traub, on the run now, having forced several law firms to disband and/or be closed. You would think this wicked kid's counsel would say "uh oh, this one grabs tigers by the tail".

But, if you are a bright lawyer, you might also say "this kid is going to spend a lot on legal fees"

You just have to let the kid put the noose around his own neck...

and let gravity of false testimony and bad faith acts - go to work.

Ding Ding - Round 3 coming - and it's going to be a doozey

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