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La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:49 PM Nov 2015

Blaming people for getting/giving HIV is not as inconsequential as you think it is

1. It continues to stigmatize an already stigmatized disease.

2. it prevents people who have it from getting social support. imagine if you were just diagnosed with HIV, and you saw the reaction a lot of people have had to Sheen.

3. it prevents people from getting tested, which is the greatest problem in HIV infection. that about half the people with HIV do not know that they have it.

Just because Sheen is not a perfect victim, does not mean he is not deserving of empathy and compassion.

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Blaming people for getting/giving HIV is not as inconsequential as you think it is (Original Post) La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 OP
It also ethically absolves active adults, straight or gay, male or female, closeupready Nov 2015 #1
The vapid responses focusing on Sheen himself LanternWaste Nov 2015 #2
also, i find this really troubling that people need a perfect victim to feel sympathy La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #3
And if most of the people shaming Sheen had his life would probably make the same mistakes that he Yavin4 Nov 2015 #6
that too. La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #7
Shaming people over any disease is both ignorant and repugnant Yavin4 Nov 2015 #4
.. La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #5
Perfect response, Yavin4! nt brer cat Nov 2015 #8
Kick La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #9
And there is this.... Liberal Veteran Nov 2015 #10
yup. as true today as back then. La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #11
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
1. It also ethically absolves active adults, straight or gay, male or female,
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:01 PM
Nov 2015

from safeguarding their HIV- status. So that in theory, nobody who is HIV- is EVER responsible for seroconverting to HIV+.

I realize that many people are monogamous, asexual, or otherwise inactive sexually (or even merely ignorant), but for those who are more seasoned in life, and are familiar with the history of STI's in human civilization, I can't see how this kind of blanket absolution is sound.

Many people sleep around, and have lots of sex partners. That's not a judgment; it's a fact, and as I stated yesterday, a public health professional who refuses to recommend PreP therapy on the basis that, "well, if we tell them that taking the therapy will dramatically lessen the risk of becoming infected with HIV, then they will have more sex" is a health professional who should NOT be involved in guidance of those who are at increased risk of HIV infection.

Everyone who is involved in consensual sex should be smart and safe about it.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
2. The vapid responses focusing on Sheen himself
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:27 PM
Nov 2015

The vapid, insipid responses focusing on Sheen himself rather than the disease are too many to simply ignore. Which I find rather curious given the amount of them professing in one way or another, to be well-read and clever.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
3. also, i find this really troubling that people need a perfect victim to feel sympathy
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:34 PM
Nov 2015

i see this here, with Michael Brown, with a million other things.

honestly, empathy is really in such shortage.

Yavin4

(35,445 posts)
6. And if most of the people shaming Sheen had his life would probably make the same mistakes that he
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:06 PM
Nov 2015

made. It's easy to "tut tut" someone when you're not subject to the same temptations on a daily basis.

Yavin4

(35,445 posts)
4. Shaming people over any disease is both ignorant and repugnant
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 06:04 PM
Nov 2015

Diseases are not curses from an invisible man in the sky.

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