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6 Realities In A Super Religious Family That Wants Me Dead
http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2024-when-religious-parents-kill-kids-inside-honor-killing.html
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(40,416 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Oneironaut
(5,524 posts)iandhr
(6,852 posts)struggle4progress
(118,350 posts)February 25th 2014 01:13 PM
... A new paper in Forensic Science International ... is a statistical analysis of filicide in the United States ... The aim was to .. identify patterns and .. warning signs ... Women kill infants as often as men .. and step-children are not more likely to be killed ... The authors .. looked at 632,017 arrests between 1976 and 2007, finding that 94,146 cases (14.9 percent) were filicides. The database includes .. ages, genders, and races of the victims and alleged offenders, as well as the means employed to commit the murder ... 72 percent of the children killed were age 6 or younger and around 33 percent were infants ... Male children were more likely to be killed (58.3 percent) and only about 11 percent of victims were stepchildren ...
http://www.science20.com/news_articles/filicide_32_year_analysis_parents_murdering_their_kids-130453
... Contrary to popular belief, stepchildren and biological children are at equal risk of being victims of filicide. And though very young children are often thought of as filicides victims, in reality about one-fifth of victims are adults. These common misconceptions about filicide are discredited by a recent study conducted by Mariano and other University forensic psychiatrists. The study, published in this months edition of the journal Forensic Science International, analyzed over 90,000 filicide cases that took place over a 32-year period. The researchers, based out of the Med School, used the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigations Supplementary Homicide Reports to compile data on the offenders and victims in filicide cases from 1976 to 2007 ...
Filicides account for 15 percent of homicides, study finds
By ANDREW JONES
SENIOR STAFF WRITER
Monday, March 3, 2014
... the total number of cases in the country has remained relatively stable at around 500 a year ... Not only has the number drifted somewhat downward since the early 1990s, but also the numbers did not climb with population growth over the last three decades ...
Analysis: 32 years of U.S. filicide arrests
February 25, 2014
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)or NOT.
struggle4progress
(118,350 posts)in the US over several decades, perhaps 500, which is large enough for meaningful study
OTOH only a tiny sample of clear "honor killings" have been identified in the US in recent years, so we have little data there
Unless better data becomes available, we're unlikely to identify clear risk factors for "honor killing," nor are we likely to have any good basis for educating people about what to look for as warning signs for "honor killing"
The study I cited suggests something like 82% of the children killed by parents are under 18, with 62% aged 6 or younger. This gives a sample of about 400 a year killed under age of majority, with about 50 a year between 7 and 18, which might be enough to identify risk factors, at least tentatively, for potentially filicidal parents
So we might actually have enough data there to find some general diagnostics for children at risk of murder-by-parent
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)When a religion teaches that blasphemy earns the death penalty, that religion is evil.
When a religion teaches that a despoiled female merits death by stoning, that religion evil.
All of that is true, regardless of statistical factoids regarding parents murdering children.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Because parents kill their children anyway?
Is that your point?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Because how dare anyone criticize misogynistic religions?
It's just a woman after all. Nothing to see here.
treestar
(82,383 posts)the point was about statistics.
This style of argument is in bad faith.
mwrguy
(3,245 posts)Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)perpetrators.
Its also no surprise that a significant fraction of homicides are committed by family members against family members, of all types of relationships. I would say that religion/cultural ideology can motivate such crimes and we should attack such sources of motivation. Would you not agree?
struggle4progress
(118,350 posts)since in the US only about 50 children aged 7-18 are killed by parents annually, honor killings of girls under age of majority are likely to be quite rare. Unless clear data emerges showing otherwise, the reasonable course of action is to try to understand and publicize general warning signs for potential filicide
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)struggle4progress
(118,350 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Do you have a problem with the article pointing out religious misogyny and the horror this woman's life became because of it?
Why do you always try to deflect whenever religion is criticized?
EvolveOrConvolve
(6,452 posts)To defend religion. SMFH...
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Poor girl, I do hope she is ok. I can't even say what I think about a religion that would cause parents to be murderous toward their own children.
romanic
(2,841 posts)Hope she's ok.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)That's a common trick to escape law enforcement. "She jumped off the balcony"
onager
(9,356 posts)A woman is just as likely to be killed by her brother or another family member to uphold the family "honor."
When I lived in Egypt, one famous honor killing took place in a village I passed thru twice a day on my way to work. An 18-yr-old woman ran off to Alexandria with her boyfriend. Her father and brother followed her and begged her to come home, all is forgiven, etc. etc. She went back home and shortly after, on the village main street in front of many witnesses, her brother put a gun to her head and shot her. He got a sentence of 2 years in jail, IIRC, and returned to his village a hero. That was fairly common in Egypt, especially in the rural areas.
Here, I can Goggle-Gish-Gallop myself...
...The Jordanian government, for its part, has called on judges to deal with alleged honor crimes in the same manner as they do for normal murders. However, with a predominantly Bedouin Parliament, this is proving difficult.
Parliament has been urged to establish harsher penalties for such crimes, but they have been reluctant to do so, saying that if they did so it would lead to an increase in promiscuity across the country.
For Egypt, weak sentences are often given to male relatives who murder their female relatives, with judges often viewing the case with leniency.
Between the year 2002 and 2003, The Association of Legal Aid for Women, (CWELA) began compiling and analyzing press coverage of 20 daily newspapers and weekly magazines that dealt with domestic violence in Egypt.
CEWLAs report also showed that the perpetrators of violence were males in 75 percent of the cases and women represented 25 percent. The perpetrators were the husbands (52 percent), the fathers (10 percent), brothers (10 percent), the mothers (four percent) the rest were the sons, relatives of the husband or of the wife, the step father or the step mother. The types of violence were murder (76 percent), attempt to murder (5 percent), battering (18 percent), kidnapping 2.5 percent and the rest were different types such as burning property, forcing women to sign checks and become guarantors of men, accusation of insanity, etc...
http://hbv-awareness.com/egypts-rise-in-honor-killings-sparks-regional-debate/
Associated Press, Luxor - Friday, 24 May 2013
An Egyptian security official says 10 male relatives have killed a mother and her two daughters on suspicion of moral offenses - so-called honor killings.
The official said Friday the men suspected the three women of having affairs, and killed them to protect the familys honor. The three bodies were found in the Nile River near the ancient city of Luxor. They were wrapped in blankets and weighted with stones.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2013/05/24/Egypt-three-women-killed-in-honor-crime.html
Sunday 23 October 2011|
Officially, Egypt has no "honour" killings. Young women may commit suicide, yes, but they are never murdered. This is the government line and of course, it is a lie. The files in Azza Suleiman's Centre for Egyptian Women's Legal Assistance office and in those of other NGOs in Cairo tell the truth.
In May of 2007, a farmer in southern Egypt decapitated his daughter after discovering she had a boyfriend. In March of 2008, a man identified only as "Mursi" electrocuted and beat to death his 17-year-old daughter because she had received a phone call from her boyfriend. "Mursi", a farmer from Kafr el-Sheikh in the Nile Delta, admitted he "beat her with a large stick" before finishing her off with electric shocks; the murder was only discovered when the body turned up at the local hospital...
In Sohag and Assiut (in upper Egypt), Azza Suleiman and her colleagues met senior police officers. "But we found that in their books, they transfer 'honour' killings into suicides. They think that by doing this, they are helping the victim's family even though the family was responsible for the murder. So in these cases, the police have become accomplices of the killers."
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-the-lie-behind-mass-suicides-of-egypts-young-women-2074229.html
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)vile religion.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)it is rare and even so in Muslim societies. Not a good time for this as it just makes people worse in their potential treatment of ordinary Muslims.
roscoeroscoe
(1,370 posts)Cracked has some valuable posts. Praying for that poor girl