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LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 02:46 PM Nov 2015

Hacker collective Anonymous claims ISIS has plans for more attacks on Sunday (UPDATE)

Last edited Sat Nov 21, 2015, 06:05 PM - Edit history (1)



November 21, 2015
David Gilbert
Posted with permission from International Business Times

Anonymous, the loose collective of online activists, said Saturday it has uncovered information about Islamic State group attacks in Paris as well as on locations in the U.S., Indonesia, Italy and Lebanon, all apparently set for Sunday. OpParisIntel, a group within Anonymous, released a statement saying it had collected information about imminent attacks by the militant group -- aka Daesh, ISIL and ISIS -- on the French capital a little more than a week after a series of coordinated attacks there left 130 dead and hundreds injured.

Anonymous also said the Islamic State group is planning an assault at the WWE Survivor Series event scheduled to take place in the Philips Arena in Atlanta Sunday at 7.30 p.m., as well as attacks at multiple events in Paris.

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http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/hacker-collective-anonymous-claims-isis-has-plans-for-more-attacks-on-sunday/


UPDATE: Anonymous; We did not spread any rumors about possible future ISIS attacks, and frankly, we do not know where the rumors come from.
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Hacker collective Anonymous claims ISIS has plans for more attacks on Sunday (UPDATE) (Original Post) LiberalArkie Nov 2015 OP
The question I have is... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #1
The same reason 9/11 happened etc. They agency themselves did not find the info so LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #2
But this is the equivalent... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #3
You are assuming that they have deemed the threats credible and done nothing karynnj Nov 2015 #7
There have been plenty of times when the sirens have not been turned on with the warning LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #10
point taken -- karynnj Nov 2015 #11
And yet if the government announced there was a credible threat... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #5
Because if they put out every threat, THEY would in fact be the megaphone terrorizing the country karynnj Nov 2015 #6
I seem to remember the FBI and MSM did that earlier in the year. They gave sensational warnings CJCRANE Nov 2015 #8
It may vary by credibility of the threat karynnj Nov 2015 #9
Maybe the authorities don't want to tip ISIS off. If they have credible information that an totodeinhere Nov 2015 #14
Yes I agree...... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #18
If you look at alternative news websites CJCRANE Nov 2015 #4
Yes. As much as I like 840high Nov 2015 #13
If you don't mind sharing... CoffeeCat Nov 2015 #17
I think you need to root around and find stuff that suits you. CJCRANE Nov 2015 #19
Bookmarking thread, I guess... MowCowWhoHow III Nov 2015 #12
FBI weighs in on U.S. threat reported by Anonymous MowCowWhoHow III Nov 2015 #15
And we might remember how much everyone laughed at Bush's Threat level colors. LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #16
I'm sure Daesh has a drawing board ck4829 Nov 2015 #20

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
1. The question I have is...
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:06 PM
Nov 2015

...Why didn't law enforcement or our government make the public aware of thee potential threats if Anonymous discovered evidence of multiple, planned attacks and then they handed over the information to the CIA/FBI and others?

Why are we hearing about this through Raw Story, and not larger media outlets, and just now?

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
2. The same reason 9/11 happened etc. They agency themselves did not find the info so
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:14 PM
Nov 2015

therefore the info isn't true. I believe that they would prefer something to happen and they were warned but not verified than to be caught putting out information on an action that may not happen.

Example: Why don't the tornado sirens go off as soon as a warning has been issued? Most localities require that a law enforcement officer verify that a tornado is indeed on the ground before they will turn the sirens on.

You see the agencies get complaints when people are bothered needlessly. It is better to die than to be woken up by a false alarm.

Weird huh?

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
3. But this is the equivalent...
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:23 PM
Nov 2015

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...of not sounding the tornado siren and warning people.

There is enough evidence to put information out there. They don't have to say that attacks are imminent. Just say that possible, Intel has been gathered about possible threats.

Esp the attack in Atlanta. If I had plans to attend, I'd sure want to know.

Like you said. It's weird.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
7. You are assuming that they have deemed the threats credible and done nothing
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:30 PM
Nov 2015

A tornado siren is not sounded until there is a tornado spotted with its track going in that direction.

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
10. There have been plenty of times when the sirens have not been turned on with the warning
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:46 PM
Nov 2015

from the National Weather Service because a deputy has not driven out to the location and spotted it.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
11. point taken --
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:48 PM
Nov 2015

I have never lived in tornado alley -- Southern Indiana where I went to college was the closest and that was over 40 years ago.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
5. And yet if the government announced there was a credible threat...
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:27 PM
Nov 2015

.....people here would be posting about fear, terra, 24/7 mind ops, etc.

There is no winning for losing when you're the government.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
6. Because if they put out every threat, THEY would in fact be the megaphone terrorizing the country
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:28 PM
Nov 2015

Think about it -- ISIS and any other group could then bring the country to complete paranoia - all by speaking of threats, without doing anything. They could effectively stop every sports, entertainment, political event. Though what would it mean if the government put out a statement that flights out of (insert your local airport) during the Thanksgiving/Christmas season have been threathened. How do YOU use that information. The way the government uses it is to increase the security checks. (Anyone who travels much has seen that the lines flow much faster some of the time than others.)

Just remember what the word TERRORIZE means. You can achieve it if you create a situation when people are always afraid. (Remember how Bush manipulated this in 2003 and especially 2004. A good case can be made that in 2004, the Bush administration itself terrorized the country with many of its terror warning - more correlated to their political situation than real new threats.)

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
8. I seem to remember the FBI and MSM did that earlier in the year. They gave sensational warnings
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:34 PM
Nov 2015

about some holiday or event but nothing happened.

So it seems like sometimes they do it and sometimes they don't.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
9. It may vary by credibility of the threat
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:43 PM
Nov 2015

If they put out threat information rarely - people might actually be more observant when they do and more likely to report anything weird. I would assume it is a careful balance.

totodeinhere

(13,059 posts)
14. Maybe the authorities don't want to tip ISIS off. If they have credible information that an
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 05:27 PM
Nov 2015

attack is imminent maybe they plan on using that information to apprehend the attackers before it happens. Whereas if they release the information it could scare the attackers off for the time being only to attack later.

This is a tough call. Yes the temptation is there to warn people so they won't be in harm's way. Yet they are also trying to catch the terrorists. I'm glad I'm not the one who has to make that decision.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
17. If you don't mind sharing...
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 06:12 PM
Nov 2015

...any suggested alternative sites that you find useful, that would be most appreciated.

😀

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
19. I think you need to root around and find stuff that suits you.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 09:27 AM
Nov 2015

I read a lot of different sites, mainstream and alternative, liberal and conservative, foreign and domestic.

The sites I like best are the ones that allow readers' comments because sometimes you find information that you wouldn't find on your own.

Sometimes it can be very frustrating if you disagree with the majority of the comments, at other times you can get a pleasant surprise.

I also used to google newspaper sites in other countries.

There are plenty of lists that give you links to English language newspapers from overseas.

MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
15. FBI weighs in on U.S. threat reported by Anonymous
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 05:45 PM
Nov 2015
FBI weighs in on U.S. threat reported by Anonymous

The FBI confirmed Saturday that it's aware of a reported terror threat in Atlanta but doesn't consider it to be credible.

Earlier Saturday, the hacker group Anonymous reportedly said that it uncovered threats by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, against the WWE Survivor Series, which is scheduled for Sunday night in Atlanta.

"The FBI is aware of reports of an alleged threat that includes an Atlanta, Georgia, venue and event," J. Britt Johnson, special agent in charge of the FBI's Atlanta office, said in a statement to CBS News. "While we take all threats seriously, we do not have specific or credible information of an attack at this time. We have, however, made the proper notifications as we continue to work closely with our law enforcement and private sector partners to keep our community safe."

In a statement Saturday, the WWE said the Survivor Series would go on as planned while the organization investigated the threat with authorities.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/anonymous-hacker-group-isis-atlanta-threat-not-credible-fbi/

LiberalArkie

(15,728 posts)
16. And we might remember how much everyone laughed at Bush's Threat level colors.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 05:58 PM
Nov 2015

And the fact that they would go to Red when it seemed to be a political threat because nothing ever happened. That is always the danger in the U.S. We have a tendency to laugh and "There they are crying wolf again". I don't know how they would really do something if they knew. Belgium essentially declared marshall law and locked everything down to search. I don't know if we would stand for it.

ck4829

(35,091 posts)
20. I'm sure Daesh has a drawing board
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 09:35 AM
Nov 2015

It's about the spectacle, I'm sure they don't want another underwear bomber.

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