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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJON BEL EDWARDS JUST SHOWED DEMS HOW TO WIN !! YOU DO IT WITH STRENGTH !!
Last edited Sun Nov 22, 2015, 09:14 AM - Edit history (1)
It is DONE ! Edwards has beaten Vitter-The-Prostituting-Liar-and-Cheater by being STRONG and CLEAR. THAT is how you god damned well WIN an election.
vadermike
(1,415 posts)That's the way to do it! K and r. ! Wonderful victory. I am sure team Hillary and or team Bernie will use this to their advantage. I hope if they are the nominee and want to win ! Against the right nominee I think they could carry Louisiana against trump possibly
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)nt
Regardless, better than Vitter.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)(All I know about this is what I learned on DU in the last few minutes.) Pro life (quote unquote) is a DEMOCRAT??
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)n/t
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Chemisse
(30,813 posts)I like that. I think I will use it sometime.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Oh well, what else is new..
Chitown Kev
(2,197 posts)Does winning a governorship count for anything or not?
liskddksil
(2,753 posts)Pro-Teacher and Public School, in a state that Republican's have been holding up as a model for school privatization. This is a huge set-back for them. So I have to take the good with the bad.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)ProUnion, ProHealthcare, ProEducation, ProMiddleClassEconomics ! LA is a socially conservative state, like it or not.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Shocked, shocked I say.
herding cats
(19,565 posts)Yeah, he went there and he won. It worked due to the his message and the type of constituency he was appealing to. Plus, he was was ahead in the polls before he made that ad. It was smart and borderline safe. It was brilliant!
All politics are local, and Edwards understood this and played to his strengths, and prayed on Vitter's weaknesses. He's still not the type of Democrat many DUers would accept winning a race.
Personally, I'm thrilled! He's not even close to a Progressive, but he sucks a lot less than Vitter which was the only other alternative here!
This is the reality of red state politics, which a lot of people who live in blue states just cannot wrap their heads around. The voting population is by majority conservative. Either you appeal to them, or a way worse candidate gets into office. Edwards knew this and he played his hadn accordingly.
Just don't set Edwards up as some model for our new Democratic platform unless you want to start praising all those Yellow Dogs whose demise I've seen celebrated here when they were voted out and we lost our majority power during the Big Purge.
All politics are local. This is a perfect example of that old saying.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)herding cats
(19,565 posts)I know what the reality is there, and I agree with you.
I'm not a fan of the blind Red Vs. Blue stuff. It's always dependent on local politics, which vary by region, district, etc. If you dial in on what the local voters want, you can win. It just doesn't always equate to what most people consider to be a Progressive candidate. As in this case.
Edwards is leaps and bounds beyond what Vitter would have been for the population of Louisiana. I'm thrilled for the potential progress in their future! Even if it's not in all the areas I'd have wanted if this were a perfect world. Reality is this isn't, and it's a huge step in the right direction.
roscoeroscoe
(1,370 posts)If a criminal freak like Vitter gets scrubbed, it sends a message. And I believe Bel will make things better for the people of Louisiana, which is the point. I can't wait to see the contrast with "Bobby".
vadermike
(1,415 posts)He said will do day 1 !! Yay for that too
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Chemisse
(30,813 posts)Awesome.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)But better than alternative.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Jarqui
(10,126 posts)Feb 2015 Vitter +21
Jun 2015 Vitter +22
Sep 2015 Vitter +18
then ...
Oct 2015 Edwards +16
Nov 2015 Edwards +22
Nov 2015 Edwards +14
Election Edwards +8
The voters said the 2007 prostitution scandal where new info came out that he skipped a vote to honor vets to call a prostitute got folks riled up against him.
My concern with Hillary's candidacy is kind of like the above. No, in 2007, Hillary didn't hook up with a prostitute. But there is a library of stuff the GOP can hit her with during the last few weeks of the campaign. Like Vitter, her favorability is not strong - she has a low ceiling. Right now, unlike Vitter, she's behind candidates like Rubio so she's currently not in nearly as good a position and she's unlikely to ever be +20 over the GOP candidate. And that makes her more vulnerable to the Koch money funding ads something like the ad that got Vitter - taking something from her past, twisting it a little and thumping her with a blitz. Hopefully, I'm wrong but that's one reason why I don't concede the primary to her.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Jarqui
(10,126 posts)She loses to Rubio handily for example - it's not that close - not a tie.
wheniwasincongress
(1,307 posts)up there with the Obama campaign ad of Romney singing horribly
spanone
(135,844 posts)Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)apparently. While not letting yourself be out-right-winged on things like abortion and gun control.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Edwards went there and took the fight to Vitter, calling out all the BS. If he just ran as a nice guy he never would've gone anywhere.
Louisiana has been ranked consistently as the most pro-life state in the US. Sorry, you're not electing a pro-choice candidate there. It's not happening.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)It was NEVER going to happen had Edwards not run the STRONG campaign he ran. Remember, Vitter had NEVER lost an election, was much better known, and was 20 points ahead early on. Edwards ran a STRONG, AGGRESSIVE campaign. Edwards is a social conservative and an economic/education/labor moderate to PROGRESSIVE.
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bigwillq
(72,790 posts)He might as well be an R
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(7,723 posts)Marje
(38 posts)Vinca
(50,279 posts)At long last we've located a Democratic spine.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)kentuck
(111,104 posts)That was the line that even Republicans will not cross. If we can get all the other Republicans to put on diapers and visit houses of prostitution, then we may take back the house.