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JI7

(89,252 posts)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:57 AM Nov 2015

Does being "Overqualified for the Job" actually mean "May ask too many Questions" ?

i always hated the whole "overqualified" for work thing. if someone is qualified they are qualified and can do the job.

but i always thought the term referred more to those who may question policies and other things relating to the job.

the higher ups just want someone who will do what they are told and not ask or question what is going on.

the only exceptions i can see is the job requires a lot of training and they think there is less chance of certain people staying because they would go on to more higher paying jobs. but this would apply to others also so id on't think this is always the case.

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Does being "Overqualified for the Job" actually mean "May ask too many Questions" ? (Original Post) JI7 Nov 2015 OP
It means too old and/or too expensive. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2015 #1
No. It means if the job wants a bachelors degree and you put an MBA yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #2
It can mean that. Rex Nov 2015 #3
Too old abelenkpe Nov 2015 #4
Usually means "Will leave as soon as something better comes along, not worth training costs" alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #5
It usually means they think if they hire you, you'll still be looking elsewhere. WillowTree Nov 2015 #6
It means the person deemed "over qualified" is not getting the job. brush Nov 2015 #7
And "not getting the job" means you're not able to pay for rent or groceries ck4829 Nov 2015 #19
Yep. Been there, heard that HR person say that very thing. brush Nov 2015 #21
It means they aren't willing to fast track you to a better position within the company Kalidurga Nov 2015 #8
It means, you will be worth more than the salary they pay you. DetlefK Nov 2015 #9
They want you to be a mushroom and not ask or know anything. hobbit709 Nov 2015 #10
Nope it means too expensive starting salary. ileus Nov 2015 #11
When I was looking for a job, I ran into a hiring manager who used terms like 'overqualified' ck4829 Nov 2015 #12
It means many things, most have already been stated tech3149 Nov 2015 #13
Nope. Companies spend a fair amount of money when on-boarding new employees. Calista241 Nov 2015 #14
what you said Facility Inspector Nov 2015 #17
It means they don't think you will stay around Lee-Lee Nov 2015 #15
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar whatthehey Nov 2015 #16
I would be concerned because they would likely be bored and unsatisfied. FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #18
It means too old, too expensive, or they fear you will leave the 1st chance you get for a better job krawhitham Nov 2015 #20
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
2. No. It means if the job wants a bachelors degree and you put an MBA
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:02 AM
Nov 2015

down on your resume. You may not get the job as you are over qualified and probably won't stay long if something better came along. From experience, companies waste too much time training and get workers where they want only to leave. So the company figures why bother and they are right in many cases. Of course the smart worker keeps the MBA off the resume for that job and increases their chances.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
3. It can mean that.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:02 AM
Nov 2015

You might catch us funneling money so you are overqualified for the job. No one ever said, but might have been thinking it.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
4. Too old
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:11 AM
Nov 2015

You might have health issues, or a life outside work, family, etc. And you might expect too much money, benefits or Gawd forbid stability. You also may not be gullible enough to be easily manipulated and taken advantage of. But mostly it means your too old.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
5. Usually means "Will leave as soon as something better comes along, not worth training costs"
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:27 AM
Nov 2015

Apparently, this common sense understanding is not right, but that's how it usually functions.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
6. It usually means they think if they hire you, you'll still be looking elsewhere.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:29 AM
Nov 2015

They know you could probably be making more money than they're offering elsewhere and think that you'll only be taking the job because "it's better than nothing". They're afraid that they'll spend time and money bringing you on and getting you up to speed only to have you quit for a better offer. And when that's their thinking, they're usually right.

I did it once. I'd been looking for a job for some time and wound up taking a job for chump change wages and awful work atmosphere just to have a job to go to and some money coming in. Four months in I got a call from a place where I'd interviewed almost a year earlier with a much better future, worlds better benes (any benefits would have been major improvement over what they offered) and 50% more money. The very definition of a no brainer. With my experience and work history, they can't have really believed that I'd be around long.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
8. It means they aren't willing to fast track you to a better position within the company
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 03:04 AM
Nov 2015

That can mean either they are planning to downsize those positions or they have no clue how to retain talent.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
9. It means, you will be worth more than the salary they pay you.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:34 AM
Nov 2015

They know it, you know it, and it will only be a question of time until you demand a higher salary or start looking for another job.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
12. When I was looking for a job, I ran into a hiring manager who used terms like 'overqualified'
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 09:02 AM
Nov 2015

There were a lot of job postings for a hospital for a variety of jobs from lab work to housekeeping. This hospital was a short bus ride away from me and one of my relatives worked there for over 20 years at this point, so I thought it would be a sure bet I would get something.

I could not have been more wrong.

One person controlled the hiring decisions from not tossing the application in the circular file, meetings with other managers in the departments, to the ultimate hiring decision; a human resources generalist. And so for all of these jobs I applied to, which was close to a hundred and all jobs I thought I was qualified for, almost every single one was rejected outright. I was 'overqualified', I was not qualified enough, I didn't put enough information in why I left jobs or why I have a gap in my job record (Gee, now why is that?), and sometimes job applications just fell down the memory hole, I would call and they would say they're still working on it... months later. Whatever the case, there was a very thin line between 'not qualified' and 'overqualified'.

So I suspect that one of the sources of applicants being 'overqualified' is managers who don't really know what they are doing, it is a form of corruption and it probably goes hand in hand with being 'overqualified' because you might be more qualified than the manager hiring you.

We really need a new Civilian Conservation Corps.

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
13. It means many things, most have already been stated
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 09:03 AM
Nov 2015

The important point is to connect them all. They are all contributing factors to my abstention from being a wage slave in 2002.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
14. Nope. Companies spend a fair amount of money when on-boarding new employees.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 09:12 AM
Nov 2015

Training a person for a job takes time and commitment from other company resources. An overqualified person is not going to be content performing what might be considered menial or degrading tasks.

Why would a company spend that time and money training you when you're just going to leave at the first opportunity.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
15. It means they don't think you will stay around
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 09:22 AM
Nov 2015

Either because you will get a better offer soon and they figure you just want this job as a placeholder or they figure you won't be happy because the job won't be satisfying for you.

It's something HR wonks learn about in school and study- they know that statistically an overqualified person won't be retained as long.

If you think a job may feel you are overqualified it's not a bad idea to include a letter with reasons that would assuage their concerns.

I am not HR but in my current job work way too close with them doing background investigations. The reasons they weed out applicants seem like voodoo sometimes.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
16. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 09:42 AM
Nov 2015

My career level for the last decade or so has been department level leadership in either corporate or large mfg site. Director of Operations, or Quality, or Supply Chain being typical titles. I don't have much desire or even less all the attributes needed to hit the C level, and that's fine. But I'm also not a distant sit in the office and ask to be spoonfed kind of guy. I keep up with being an ERP super-user so I have access to the info I need and can spot issues in the transactions under my remit before the KPIs shift and, with no doubt a steep learning curve in some of the details, I could always take over, say, a planner or QE role if needed as backup.

But when I like many others faced a nigh year-long unemploymewnt stint in the recent recession, I got bored enough to apply to do those kind of jobs full time. The answer I got, if any at all, was always the overqualified one. Even though I've always lived below my means so I could afford the pay cut, and frankly wouldn't miss the part about being responsible for the work of others, those potential employers knew what I know when I see analogous applications myself. I would have been bored, and underutilized, and before long chafing at the bit that I wasn't in on the strategic level activities I am used to.

Hiring a master craftsman to run an assembly station doesn't get you a master assembler. It gets you a bored and likely resentful craftsman.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
18. I would be concerned because they would likely be bored and unsatisfied.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 09:59 AM
Nov 2015

Nothing can screw up a good workplace like adding in a bored and unsatisfied worker in the mix.

krawhitham

(4,644 posts)
20. It means too old, too expensive, or they fear you will leave the 1st chance you get for a better job
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 10:19 AM
Nov 2015
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