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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:34 PM Nov 2015

teenager arrested after bringing homemade clock to school, seeks $15 million in damages

Family of Ahmed Mohamed, teenager arrested after bringing homemade clock to school, seeks $15 million in damages from city of Irving, Texas, and school district.

An attorney for the family wrote in letters published by the Dallas Morning News that they want $10 million in damages from the city of Irving, Texas, and $5 million from the local school district.
As many as seven adults interrogated the 14-year-old, who was pressured to sign a statement saying he intended to bring a "hoax bomb" to the school, according to the letters, which threaten a civil lawsuit if their demands are not met.

Ahmed, who has relocated to Qatar with his family after accepting a scholarship, visited the White House last month for an astronomy event where he briefly met President Obama.
The family's attorney said Monday in one of the letters that the family is living in Qatar "for personal security reasons" but wants relocate back to Texas "when they feel safe again."
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/261113-family-of-clock-kid-seeks-15-million-in-damages

I can see why they feel unsafe in Texas:

Armed protesters gather outside Islamic Center of Irving

About a dozen protesters — most carrying long guns, some masked and one with his mother — lined up outside an Irving mosque on Saturday. They had come from as far away as Hunt County to the green-domed complex. To “Stop the Islamization of America,” as the mother’s hand-drawn sign urged.
http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2015/11/armed-protesters-set-up-outside-islamic-center-of-irving.html/
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teenager arrested after bringing homemade clock to school, seeks $15 million in damages (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Nov 2015 OP
My homemade clock SoCalNative Nov 2015 #1
Your home-made clock appears to contain a rather efficient built-in bias. LanternWaste Nov 2015 #3
Not really SoCalNative Nov 2015 #4
How much extra for the echo? Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #24
lol! Sissyk Nov 2015 #49
Wow. Nice. philosslayer Nov 2015 #6
Once again - he did NOT build a clock. 840high Nov 2015 #10
You really think... tonedevil Nov 2015 #13
yea cause this poster said this on 2 different posts about this the poster is dangling bait saturnsring Nov 2015 #15
Yes I do. 840high Nov 2015 #32
Were you prepared... tonedevil Nov 2015 #35
Your opinion philosslayer Nov 2015 #18
He put together parts to work as a clock, that his teacher knew functioned as a clock, pnwmom Nov 2015 #33
He put a clock back together. 840high Nov 2015 #39
SO WHAT??????? The issue is that it was never a fake bomb. And they knew that. pnwmom Nov 2015 #41
he didn't build a clock- he took one apart and put in in a wooden box snooper2 Nov 2015 #11
Exactly. cwydro Nov 2015 #14
People can't seem to get straight that it makes NO DIFFERENCE pnwmom Nov 2015 #34
So fucking what? alarimer Nov 2015 #36
It's fact not RW BS. 840high Nov 2015 #40
It's a FACT that they knew it was a clock -- he had shown his teacher and the school knew -- pnwmom Nov 2015 #43
that teacher also told him to keep it in his backpack because it looked like a bomb BlueStateLib Nov 2015 #53
They KNEW it wasn't a bomb. Everything else is just smoke and mirrors. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #54
I agree Philo vt_native Nov 2015 #31
My homemade clock... tonedevil Nov 2015 #7
Ding! Ding! Ding! bigwillq Nov 2015 #28
Good! newfie11 Nov 2015 #2
No way yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #5
Agreed. $15 million is a bit steep n/t arcane1 Nov 2015 #8
Give him 100k Liberal_in_LA Nov 2015 #12
I would be cool with giving him that. I am sure they will settle out of court for whatever amount b yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #19
He did not make a clock. 840high Nov 2015 #9
Any comments on the rest of this story? He redesigned a clock, got handcuffed, arrested uppityperson Nov 2015 #45
Hot buttered... HuckleB Nov 2015 #16
I hope he's successful. Authorities there could certainly apologize for free, but no. closeupready Nov 2015 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #20
Yes, something about this whole story was very fishy. cwydro Nov 2015 #21
Yeah, something about this story seems a bit off to me. smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #22
Smells a bit like "Balloon Boy" n/t Throd Nov 2015 #23
Yes, yes it does. Quantess Nov 2015 #60
Well more than a publicity stunt now GusBob Nov 2015 #26
Agreed ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #27
I think someone is giving the family bad advice renate Nov 2015 #25
One article I read said he met with some leader in Sudan GusBob Nov 2015 #29
Omar Bashir, a ruthless dictator eissa Nov 2015 #46
DU will love him no matter, because Republicans hate him Democat Nov 2015 #56
You probably should have leftynyc Nov 2015 #61
Of course you're right Democat Nov 2015 #62
Or they're people of good will leftynyc Nov 2015 #63
I'm sorry. He got treated unfairly, but the law suit is absurd. Hoyt Nov 2015 #30
The amount sued for is usually much larger than the amount settled for. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2015 #37
I don't think he should get anything. As to the armed yahoos, lock em up as terrorists. Hoyt Nov 2015 #38
School need to learn a lesson, police too. 50,000 sounds fair. Nt Logical Nov 2015 #47
The only people who are going to be paying here are the tax payers 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #52
And the true motive surfaces. kiva Nov 2015 #42
Look....if you took that "clock" through airport security.... davidn3600 Nov 2015 #44
Yes, because a teacher is like TSA, looking for bombs! Lol! nt Logical Nov 2015 #48
If you see something say something. Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #57
I view this with a great deal of suspicion.... jack_krass Nov 2015 #50
Link please philosslayer Nov 2015 #51
From The Daily Beast: Brigadier Pudding Nov 2015 #58
I was wondering when it would get to this...$$$. demosincebirth Nov 2015 #55
in the end it seems to always be about money Skittles Nov 2015 #59

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
1. My homemade clock
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:39 PM
Nov 2015

says his 15 minutes are up.

And that perhaps he and his family are nothing but grifters.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
3. Your home-made clock appears to contain a rather efficient built-in bias.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:43 PM
Nov 2015

Your home-made clock appears to contain a rather effective and efficient factory-made bias built into it. One may go so far as to wonder if that's a feature or merely a bug...

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
4. Not really
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:45 PM
Nov 2015

the story was sort of sketchy to begin with. Add to the fact that the family has since abruptly relocated to the UAE.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
6. Wow. Nice.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:47 PM
Nov 2015

Do you know anything about this case at all?? This child built a clock, and then got harassed by school officials to the point where he ended up in handcuffs. He deserves whatever he gets.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
35. Were you prepared...
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:10 PM
Nov 2015

to share what you think that point might be? Would you be so kind as to do so?

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
33. He put together parts to work as a clock, that his teacher knew functioned as a clock,
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:44 PM
Nov 2015

not as a bomb, and he was arrested for building it.


pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
41. SO WHAT??????? The issue is that it was never a fake bomb. And they knew that.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 10:40 PM
Nov 2015

And they shouldn't have arrested him for it.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
34. People can't seem to get straight that it makes NO DIFFERENCE
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:46 PM
Nov 2015

how easy or complicated it was for him to put the parts together to make the clock.

He showed it to his teacher. She knew it was a clock. Everyone knew it was a clock. And yet they decided to charge him with making a fake bomb.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
36. So fucking what?
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:15 PM
Nov 2015

What reason do you have for repeating shitty right-wing bullshit about this kid? Does that justify the overkill by the cops and the racism of the teachers.

NEWSFLASH: It's about the racism, stupid.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
43. It's a FACT that they knew it was a clock -- he had shown his teacher and the school knew --
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 10:42 PM
Nov 2015

and yet they decided to charge him with a BOMB HOAX.

He never claimed it was a bomb.
It can't be a bomb hoax if he never pretended it was a bomb.

BlueStateLib

(937 posts)
53. that teacher also told him to keep it in his backpack because it looked like a bomb
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:19 AM
Nov 2015

What did Ahmed do, later in the day he plugs his clock into 110 ac power and sets the alarm
so it starts beeping interrupting the class.

The kid is playing a game

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
7. My homemade clock...
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:48 PM
Nov 2015

says you are indulging in rank speculation with exactly zero evidence outside of your own prejudice.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
5. No way
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 04:46 PM
Nov 2015

People falsely put in jail for dacades don't get that much in most cases. I'd say 10,000 max.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
19. I would be cool with giving him that. I am sure they will settle out of court for whatever amount b
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:59 PM
Nov 2015

Both sides decide on.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
45. Any comments on the rest of this story? He redesigned a clock, got handcuffed, arrested
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 11:20 PM
Nov 2015

Now they want millions because "Ahmed's reputation in the global community is permanently scarred,"

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
17. I hope he's successful. Authorities there could certainly apologize for free, but no.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:19 PM
Nov 2015

They won't do that, will they.

I'm not sure it's worth $15 Million, but I do believe this exposure has damaged his future globally, and unfairly.

Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
21. Yes, something about this whole story was very fishy.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:06 PM
Nov 2015

I don't think he needs 15 million to "become whole."

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
27. Agreed
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:08 PM
Nov 2015

I have no doubt that who he is and what he looks like played a part in this, but I'm also very certain this was a troll to that end. Everyone involved should be ashamed.

I wonder if MIT and Stanford figured out he wasn't as bright at electronics as he was at grifting?

renate

(13,776 posts)
25. I think someone is giving the family bad advice
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:05 PM
Nov 2015

What happened to Ahmed was grossly unfair and awful, but so many good things came of it--scholarship offers, a trip to the White House, a huge outpouring of support.

... And now they're asking for $15 million for the kind of thing that probably happens to non-science-y students of Middle Eastern descent all the time. It does leave a little bit of a bad taste in the mouth. Their lives have been disrupted so they deserve some compensation, but that's a huge overreach IMHO.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
29. One article I read said he met with some leader in Sudan
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:12 PM
Nov 2015

Who is accused of participating in genocide in the Dafur conflict.

I don't know what sort of physical suffering he and his family went thru,

But genocide? ain't nothing worse than that

eissa

(4,238 posts)
46. Omar Bashir, a ruthless dictator
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 11:44 PM
Nov 2015

Wanted for war crimes in connection with the genocide committed in Darfur. I washed my hands of this kid and his grifter family after that meeting.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
56. DU will love him no matter, because Republicans hate him
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:35 AM
Nov 2015

Doesn't matter if he meets with dictators, sues a school district, or moves to a place where women are second class citizens. All that matters to many here is that Republicans don't like him.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
61. You probably should have
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:53 AM
Nov 2015

read all the comments before yours before you decided to tag DU as being filled with reactionary imbeciles. There are plenty of people who see this an entirely different way than what you're saying. If you're going to make a blanket statement like that, be sure you're right next time.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
62. Of course you're right
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:01 AM
Nov 2015

I should have said that some here on DU will love him as long as Republicans hate him.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
37. The amount sued for is usually much larger than the amount settled for.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:27 PM
Nov 2015

The negative publicity alone to the school and officials is priceless, tho. They committed huge over reach.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
38. I don't think he should get anything. As to the armed yahoos, lock em up as terrorists.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:42 PM
Nov 2015

The kid was treated unfairly. But suing the school system doesn't accomplish anything positive. If he'd been thrown out of a restaurant or something, I'd be fine with taking legal action. Obviously, the school system's actions were wrong, but I assume they really thought they were protecting kids. If it is found he was singled out as a Muslim, I'd multiply the damages sought by a factor of 10, and fire anyone involved.

 

951-Riverside

(7,234 posts)
52. The only people who are going to be paying here are the tax payers
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:15 AM
Nov 2015

The police officers and school staff will still be collecting paychecks.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
44. Look....if you took that "clock" through airport security....
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 10:50 PM
Nov 2015

....what do you think TSA would do regardless of your skin color?

Take a guess.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
57. If you see something say something.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:35 AM
Nov 2015

I don't blame the english teacher. He showed it to his science teacher earlier in the day, who wasn't impressed and he told him to put it away. Instead he brought it to english class plugged it in, and had the alarm go off during class.

For me this interview, with the dallas morning news, helped me decide his mindset. He says two things, that he invents stuff and he points to a commercial made in china USB controller, the second which I think would play well in front of a court for the city, is his comment at 1:28 in the video.

"I closed it with a cable, cause I didn't want to lock it and make it seem like a threat. So I just used a simple cable so it wouldn't look that much suspicious."


He was aware from the beginning that the clock would be perceived as a threat and it might be considered suspicious.

The Dallas Morning News Interview.


He's am interesting kid with an interesting family. May he enjoy his studies in Qatar (the second largest funder of ISIS after Saudi Arabia).

Regarding the law enforcement reaction it's possible they went overboard and police reform on many issues is something that needs to occur.

Some imply that this a racial case, the Irving school district is pretty diverse and mostly hispanic

Irving ISD is made up of 80% low-income families, including 9,500 high school students. It is also a majority-minority district. The student population represents more than fifty-six countries speaking over ninety-five languages.

African American 12.06%
American Indian 0.47%
Asian 3.57%
Hispanic 70.84%
White 11.66%


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Independent_School_District
 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
50. I view this with a great deal of suspicion....
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:42 AM
Nov 2015

His sister also got in trouble for a "bomb hoax/threat" (a separaye incident which occurred previous to this one). C'mon,, what are the odds?

58. From The Daily Beast:
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:53 AM
Nov 2015

After the MSNBC segment, Eyman and I sit down in the hallway where she says the same thing happened to her as Ahmed.

“I got suspended from school for three days from this stupid same district, from this girl saying I wanted to blow up the school, something I had nothing to do with.”

Eyman talks with the slightest lisp, almost imperceptible, but it becomes stronger as she gets emotional.

“I got suspended and I didn’t do anything about it and so when I heard about Ahmed, I was so mad because it happened to me and I didn’t get to stand up, so I’m making sure he’s standing up because it’s not right. So I’m not jealous, I’m kinda like—it’s like he’s standing for me.”

Eyman said her suspension was in her first year of middle school, “my first year of attempting middle school in America. I knew English, but the culture was different, the people were different.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/17/man-i-went-viral-my-day-with-ahmed-moahmed-the-most-famous-boy-on-earth.html

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