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Eugene

(61,900 posts)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:20 PM Nov 2015

Ben Carson Says He Saw 'Newsreels' of American Muslims Cheering on 9/11

Source: ABC News

Ben Carson Says He Saw 'Newsreels' of American Muslims Cheering on 9/11

By KATHERINE FAULDERS PAHRUMP, Nevada — Nov 23, 2015, 3:10 PM ET

In a press conference following a rally in Nevada today, presidential candidate Ben Carson told reporters that he saw a video of American Muslims cheering on Sept. 11, 2001, in New Jersey when the World Trade Center's twin towers fell.

When asked by ABC News if American Muslims were cheering on 9/11, Carson said “Yes.”

When asked if he specifically saw it happening he said, “I saw the film of it, yeah.”

Later in the press conference he clarified he saw it from “the newsreels” from the 9/11 coverage at the time.

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Ben Carson Says He Saw 'Newsreels' of American Muslims Cheering on 9/11 (Original Post) Eugene Nov 2015 OP
And they were standing on pyramids...nt joeybee12 Nov 2015 #1
You stole my line, dang it! cwydro Nov 2015 #8
You gotta be quick! joeybee12 Nov 2015 #14
Thread win! Yavin4 Nov 2015 #17
Seriously? You're ok with a Boston fan WINNING???! joeybee12 Nov 2015 #29
Which are full of grain. Initech Nov 2015 #31
Newsreels?, what is this 1932? GusBob Nov 2015 #2
Yes he went to go see Charles Chaplain's latest opus at the penny theater. Initech Nov 2015 #30
"Newsreels"? Dafuq? hatrack Nov 2015 #3
Newsreels died in 1967. yellowcanine Nov 2015 #54
going for don's running mate spanone Nov 2015 #4
Yeth thir..and then I saw these.. BlueJazz Nov 2015 #5
I do recall seeing news programs patsimp Nov 2015 #6
In America? jberryhill Nov 2015 #7
the interviews were done with muslims in america, UK and other countries around the world patsimp Nov 2015 #10
Um underpants Nov 2015 #13
because that's what the program said patsimp Nov 2015 #19
What program? jberryhill Nov 2015 #25
Link to one jberryhill Nov 2015 #15
i find it outrageous patsimp Nov 2015 #20
It's not the same thing at all. yardwork Nov 2015 #23
You haven't actually linked to anything jberryhill Nov 2015 #24
It's called blow-back. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #37
That was the real travesty. yardwork Nov 2015 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author cpwm17 Nov 2015 #45
i thought the trade towers going down with thousands of innocent people was a travisty. patsimp Nov 2015 #48
Of course, but that's not what we were talking about. yardwork Nov 2015 #57
it's pretty offensive to say that our innocent citizens deserved to be attacked patsimp Nov 2015 #47
You're making up crap. cpwm17 Nov 2015 #49
And I saw Pigs fly by my bedroom window about 30 minutes ago. trumad Nov 2015 #11
I heard Merle Haggard died on the radio jberryhill Nov 2015 #35
I believe you. I read about it on the internet. With a link. Glassunion Nov 2015 #56
That's a great allegation! LanternWaste Nov 2015 #12
seeing it on TV is an allegation? patsimp Nov 2015 #46
cool story, bro KG Nov 2015 #39
If there were such things they would be on youtube as well as fox "news" Doctor_J Nov 2015 #51
*click click clack* (news ticker sound in background) Live Jersey City. People take to the streets. underpants Nov 2015 #9
The Dunce in the High Castle alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #16
Dang. MissB Nov 2015 #21
I'm 60 year old Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #18
Did he also hear reports over the wireless? 11 Bravo Nov 2015 #22
He got a telegram. yardwork Nov 2015 #26
Damn his new-fangled ass! Homing pigeons are the way to go! 11 Bravo Nov 2015 #28
Then present the footage, Ben. BlueStater Nov 2015 #27
This man is mentally incompetent to walk a dog around the block. hifiguy Nov 2015 #32
He'd try to stab it demwing Nov 2015 #42
And Fox News has not played that footage everyday for 14 years. Alenne Nov 2015 #33
THIS ^^^^^^^ treestar Nov 2015 #55
Really? Were they talkies? tanyev Nov 2015 #34
The important thing to remember is that Codeine Nov 2015 #36
this "newsreel" may have been the one below babydollhead Nov 2015 #38
well that's the problem right there d_r Nov 2015 #53
It was fake. Every bit. alphafemale Nov 2015 #40
Hum... The Snopes article disagrees demwing Nov 2015 #44
He and Carly have something in common then: Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2015 #43
He heard it on the talkies, you see! And not just him, but his milkman too! Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2015 #50
Wonder if he's confused... Docreed2003 Nov 2015 #52
Probably more to that than we will ever know... Deuce Nov 2015 #59
HE LIED. spanone Nov 2015 #58

Initech

(100,080 posts)
30. Yes he went to go see Charles Chaplain's latest opus at the penny theater.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:50 PM
Nov 2015

Then afterward he threw down some fisticuffs in a kerfuffle at the nearest speakeasy.

spanone

(135,844 posts)
4. going for don's running mate
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:23 PM
Nov 2015

Last edited Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:34 PM - Edit history (1)

it's not easy to appear as stupid as doctor carson does without extreme embarrassment...amazing how well he pulls it off.

so he mis-remembers just like don trump does! amazing!!!!

patsimp

(915 posts)
6. I do recall seeing news programs
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:24 PM
Nov 2015

where some muslims were cheering and others said that they understand why the bombing occurred and added that they themselves didn't think the bombing was necessary.

It was unsettling and caused me to look deeper into muslim culture and what I found was that beheadings, forced conversions, and hatred of other religions was taught to more than a few members.

patsimp

(915 posts)
10. the interviews were done with muslims in america, UK and other countries around the world
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:30 PM
Nov 2015

what was disturbing was how well to do and educated those muslims being interviewed were. Some were Harvard educated. The theme was that while violence should be avoided, they understood why bin laden would do such a thing - e.g. he was provoked by us.

underpants

(182,826 posts)
13. Um
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:32 PM
Nov 2015

How do you know they were Harvard educated? Does that surprise you that they were or could be?

I think the question was if you saw this happen in the USA.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
15. Link to one
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:32 PM
Nov 2015

Saying one "understood why bin laden would do such a thing" is not the same thing as cheering and dancing in the streets.

patsimp

(915 posts)
20. i find it outrageous
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:06 PM
Nov 2015

equate a German saying they don't agree with Hitler but understood his motivations

yardwork

(61,634 posts)
23. It's not the same thing at all.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:29 PM
Nov 2015

After 9/11, many people speculated on bin Laden's motivations. I did myself, and I'm not Muslim.

Trying to figure out a terrorist's motivations is the first step in catching them. Of course, bushco didn't care about catching bin Laden. Obama did that.

The lie that Carson and Trump are telling us that thousands of Muslims in New Jersey celebrated the attack. This is false. The mayors if the cities in New Jersey say it's false. So do the police.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
24. You haven't actually linked to anything
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:30 PM
Nov 2015

I understand that the German people were in a severe and extended economic crisis, and responded to the type of populism which becomes attractive to populations in distress. Hitler was the right megalomaniac to rise to the occasion.

You can go through life failing to understand why people do things, and it is a poor way to anticipate future behavior.

But it is difficult to evaluate whatever it is you are referring to, in the absence of a link which, at this point, I surmise you are not willing to provide, and which, from your description, does not sound like the events in question in relation to Trump's allegations of American Muslims 'celebrating' 9/11.

So I have absolutely no idea whatever it is you are referring to as "outrageous".
 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
37. It's called blow-back.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:13 PM
Nov 2015

Anyone that had a clue about US foreign policy that led up to 9-11 understood why we were attacked. It wasn't for our freedom. Understanding why we were attacked is needed.

What was bad was many of us cheering for the unprovoked attack against Iraq. Now that was bad.

yardwork

(61,634 posts)
41. That was the real travesty.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:30 PM
Nov 2015

It's interesting how people will deflect from the outrageous behavior that we Americans committed, while pointing to non-existent behaviors supposedly done by some "others."

Response to yardwork (Reply #41)

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
49. You're making up crap.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:00 PM
Nov 2015

I'm not saying that, though the implications of what you are saying is that nations the US attacks and the people the US murders do deserve to die. Because if you don't believe that, you won't have such a hard time believing US Government actions might piss people off.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
11. And I saw Pigs fly by my bedroom window about 30 minutes ago.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:30 PM
Nov 2015

Now I'd show you a link to the video but it doesn't exist.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
51. If there were such things they would be on youtube as well as fox "news"
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:16 PM
Nov 2015

I think you're, er, misremembering

underpants

(182,826 posts)
9. *click click clack* (news ticker sound in background) Live Jersey City. People take to the streets.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 05:30 PM
Nov 2015

Terrible scene. This isn't what happens when dames can vote. Don't forget, keep smoking those Lucky Strikes!

- this is stolen from a bit Jay Mohr does on his sports radio show.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
27. Then present the footage, Ben.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:37 PM
Nov 2015

I'm sure footage of, in Trump's own words, a few thousand Americans cheering on the deaths of their fellow countrymen shouldn't be too hard to find.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
32. This man is mentally incompetent to walk a dog around the block.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 06:53 PM
Nov 2015

And I wouldn't trust him to do it and bring the dog back alive in one piece.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
55. THIS ^^^^^^^
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:09 PM
Nov 2015

Absolutely! If it existed the righties would have it on you tube and Fox would be playing it daily.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
36. The important thing to remember is that
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:06 PM
Nov 2015

he was wearing an onion on his belt, as was the fashion at the time.

babydollhead

(2,231 posts)
38. this "newsreel" may have been the one below
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:19 PM
Nov 2015

By no means am I backing Carson, I saw this video repeatedly during the days right after 9/11. always the exact same footage. that woman wiggling her tongue, I will never forget it. I think the reel itself even repeats. ...

d_r

(6,907 posts)
53. well that's the problem right there
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:46 PM
Nov 2015

when the newscaster said "West Bank" he thought it was the edge of the "East River."

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
44. Hum... The Snopes article disagrees
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:55 PM
Nov 2015

Says the thing that was false was the rumor that CNN used old footage.

You should either add a sarcasm tag, or change the post's content.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
50. He heard it on the talkies, you see! And not just him, but his milkman too!
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:08 PM
Nov 2015

They were all gathered around in their Sunday's finest, smoking their Lucky Strikes, with the fresh scent of Life Bouy soap in the air, when a young chap went out over the wireless and told everyone about the Arabics of New Jersey with all their jitterbugging and general carrying on, and the Good Doctor said, "You shred it, wheat! Ain't it just the high hat!"

Docreed2003

(16,862 posts)
52. Wonder if he's confused...
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:22 PM
Nov 2015

Because I've heard there were Israeli's cheering the attacks in NJ, from across the water. At least that what the truthers have said...

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