that she had been a drug user, partier, smoker, etc.

I think Daesh targets young people who are aimless, drifting.

Sad.

There are passages in the Koran to that effect, though, so it's not possible to dispute strongly.

So you seize on someone whose life is very much astray, imbue them with guilt and a sense of hopelessness, and then convince them that the ticket out is to have a grand old time before the exit but exit in fiery doom to redeem your reward in heaven.

In this theology, it is not good works that save - it's bad works that save.

This is why a lot of Muslims are so repelled. It seems to them a cruel parody of their religion as they know it and practice it.

Sadly, I'm not so gullible.

Plus, the fiery doom exit just does not appeal to me.

I'll stick with my life gone astray for now.

And it very definitely is.

People were surprised that some of the 9/11 terrorists went to a strip place before nominating themselves for heaven, but it made utter sense. They could do anything they wanted, because they were about to get complete forgiveness.

You can imagine how hellish and how hypocritical this becomes in practice. There are stories all over about ISIS trainees/participants exiting and claiming that ISIS are hypocrites, but the male fighters are offered that same justification. And the leaders are unlikely to enforce the rule upon the fighters, because they need them to be suicide machines.

I understand the family's perspective, but they are wrong. This man was religious - just in a sick, cultic way.

The NY Times had a very long article on ISIS wives this past Sunday.

It was just horrible to read.

I have used up my free articles for the month.

Main points (and I welcome anyone to add to it):

The women rarely see their husbands, to whom they were married through an arrangement between parents and the man. The man comes home between ISIS assignments.

The women may want kids, but the men are told not to have any. They make the women take birth control. The idea being that a man with children may be less willing to blow himself up.

The women have power amongst themselves based on their husband's rank.

Some women use the organization (as they call it) to "tell on" other women to get them in trouble to settle scores etc.

When the husband blows himself up or is killed, the women are told they must marry another fighter right away, even though Islam calls for at least a 3 month waiting/mourning period.

The women judge other women in the community (who are not ISIS wives) and can order these women to be whipped or punished for such things as wearing too tight clothing (and I'm referring to the robes).

If they flee the life, their families are in danger, as of course, are they.

I don't have the article in front of me and too lazy to go get it. But those are the points that stuck with me.

Sounds horrible!

Free nyt

Their ranting elsewhere.

Sort of like that man who attacked the abortion doc with a religious justification. He was Catholic (and I believe schizophrenic), and any Catholic will sit you down and explain why "abortion is murder" doesn't justify murder.

ISIS is quite Islamic, but in a Jim Jones cultic way. All that stuff they quote from the Koran is there, but they are not quoting all the Koran. Any Muslim within their reach who dares to challenge their interpretation is lucky to get off with a bullet to the head.

This is not just terrorism - it's religious war.

"ISIL is not Islamic. No religion condones the killing of innocents." - Barack Obama

That early training is hard to completely shrug off and it those who have left a religion are sometimes vulnerable to being drawn back in.

Look at a Ben Carson, so desperate to have a "redemption story" that he made up bullshit about attacking a friend and his mother among other things.

It's truly bizarre how badly some people want ISIS to not be what it actually is.

It sounds like Daesh just served as another outlet for rage against those he deemed weaker and/or more deviant than himself.

Mohamed Atta loved pork chops, and 49 other things you may not know about the 9/11 Florida connection.

I just finished Daniel Hopsicker's Welcome to Terrorland . He exposes the cover story of the Florida flight schools, and the ongoing cover-up. The whole thing stinks of Iran/Contra and CIA drugs. It's the same, bloody game.

Though his style can be annoyingly breezy, I highly recommend the book. There's original research you won't find anywhere else but here and on his website: http://www.madcowprod.com /.

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And FYI, here are some notes I kept while reading the book:

1. In Venice Florida, Mohamed Atta lived for two months with an American stripper/lingerie model named Amanda Keller.

2. Atta loved to party. He was out with Keller nearly every night they were together. He was a heavy drinker, snorted coke, was a stylish dresser and wore expensive jewelry.

3. According to Keller, Atta loved pork chops.

4. Keller dumped him after he embarrassed her at a night club by dancing, poorly, atop a speaker ("doing that old 'Roxbury head bob' thing, you know"?)

5. Atta revenged himself later on Keller by returning to the apartment they’d shared and killing her cat and kittens, disemboweling and dismembering them in her apartment for her to find.

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