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alp227

(32,047 posts)
Mon May 28, 2012, 05:57 PM May 2012

Public Pensions Faulted for Bets on Rosy Returns

Few investors are more bullish these days than public pension funds.

While Americans are typically earning less than 1 percent interest on their savings accounts and watching their 401(k) balances yo-yo along with the stock market, most public pension funds are still betting they will earn annual returns of 7 to 8 percent over the long haul, a practice that Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg recently called “indefensible.”

Now public pension funds across the country are facing a painful reckoning. Their projections look increasingly out of touch in today’s low-interest environment, and pressure is mounting to be more realistic. But lowering their investment assumptions, even slightly, means turning for more cash to local taxpayers — who pay part of the cost of public pensions through property and other taxes.

In New York, the city’s chief actuary, Robert North, has proposed lowering the assumed rate of return for the city’s five pension funds to 7 percent from 8 percent, which would be one of the sharpest reductions by a public pension fund in the United States. But that change would mean finding an additional $1.9 billion for the pension system every year, a huge amount for a city already depositing more than a tenth of its budget — $7.3 billion a year — into the funds.

full: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/28/nyregion/fragile-calculus-in-plans-to-fix-pension-systems.html?pagewanted=all

Article also discusses public pension issues in: New York City; Rhode Island; and San Jose, CA.

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Public Pensions Faulted for Bets on Rosy Returns (Original Post) alp227 May 2012 OP
I have an insurance policy that guaranteed a 3% payback onethatcares May 2012 #1
What rates are Federal Social Security expecting? ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #2

onethatcares

(16,184 posts)
1. I have an insurance policy that guaranteed a 3% payback
Mon May 28, 2012, 07:39 PM
May 2012

over the life of the plan,(whole life I think). now that I'm getting near the end of the plan, I get letters

explaining why the return can't be as high as "guaranteed".

but you can bet your ass if I told them I could only pay x amount for the policy due to changing financial

times, they'd cancel in a heart beat (mine).

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
2. What rates are Federal Social Security expecting?
Mon May 28, 2012, 07:46 PM
May 2012

I am involved with multiple retirement systems. All of them are overly rosy compared to what is available to day.

Recently I was taken to task for doubting Social Security's health...perhaps now some here will acknowledge the issue.

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