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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Hatfield and The McCoys 3 Part Mini Series on right now on The History Channel!
Tom_Foolery
(4,691 posts)lookingfortruth
(263 posts)decendents of those two families.
How is the mini-series? Is it more Drama hollywood style or is it more facts?
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)lookingfortruth
(263 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)the good doctor will be able to trace his lineage right back to the original McCoys. That's so cool.
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)Small world ...
trumad
(41,692 posts)Fuck you!
Trajan
(19,089 posts)I know I would find you McCoy's hangin round these here parts ! ....
Now ... where is my blunderbuss ? ....
ArnoldLayne
(2,067 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I'm sure he had some interesting tales that he couldn't share with us (he was an elementary school teacher). He did still have the paddle from those days sitting on the chalk board.... but in the blue state of Mass corp punishment had long gone the way of the dinosaurs. He was the most colorful teacher I ever had.
ArnoldLayne
(2,067 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)The music, the saloon scenes, the whole whole thing just reminded me of a stereotypical Hollywood cowboy film.
Maybe it'll get better but so far, not impressed.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)The violence was too horrendous, and for some reason, I thought the sound quality was really lacking. Often I just not understand some of the dialog. I really wanted to like this series. I too am disappointed.
Sam
lpbk2713
(42,759 posts)I missed most of the dialog as well. Turning up the volume didn't help.
In some parts it sounded to me like they had a pillow over their mouths.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)Thanks for letting me know you had problems as well!
Sam
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Seems like it's up your alley.
fortyfeetunder
(8,894 posts)After reading today's news about gang warfare, this series is like going back in the future...
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)Social Change in Appalachia was interviewed extensively for the accompanying documentary to the mini-series.
In Feud, Waller tells the real story of the Hatfields and McCoys and the Tug Valley... placing the feud in the context of community and regional change in the era of industrialization.
Waller argues that the legendary feud was not an outgrowth of an inherently violent mountain culture but rather one manifestation of a contest for social and economic control between local people and outside industrial capitaliststhe Hatfields were defending community autonomy while the McCoys were allied with the forces of industrial capitalism...
http://uncpressblog.com/
Did any of this make it into the miniseries? I'd be interested in watching it, if so.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)That really is a fascinating context. I think I'll be doing some reading with that view in mind.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)Waller exposes the social conflicts within the Tug Valley. For instance, she finds that Anderson Hatfield, former Confederate and leader of the Tug Valley home guard, began to threaten traditional ways when he entered the timber business. People considered that enterprise "risky, speculative, and conducive to dishonesty," and a challenge to the value system and way of life. "Devil" Anse forged an economic niche for himself and his family while he alienated many of his neighbors. He used the legal system to acquire timber land, thus making enemies of such men as Perry Cline from whom he won thousands of acres in a law suit. Later, in the second phase of the feud, the cantankerous Ranel McCoy no longer led the attack on the Hatfields. The vengeful foe was none other than Cline and his new powerful allies.
Cline's personal vendetta against Hatfield could only be successfully waged during the second phase of the feud when he could ally with Pikeville merchants, who sought outside investors and catered to the timber and coal interests, and the governor of Kentucky who planned to attract capitalists to the eastern mountain country. In fact, Waller argues, "Cline and the governor literally recreated the feud in order to suppress it." By doing so, Kentucky would be seen as a strong law and order state that could suppress the violent tendencies of its inhabitants and thereby attract capitalists.
http://beck.library.emory.edu/southernchanges/article.php?id=sc12-4_005
lanlady
(7,134 posts)Apart from some of the female characters who are wearing makeup that would do Estee Lauder proud, it looks like the series makers strived for authenticity -- the tattered clothing, the unadorned shacks, the unwashed bodies. Problem is, in this drab and colorless world, you need a good yarn to tell to maintain people's interest. As we all know the H & Mc feud was all about two families shooting at one another over the span of 40-50 years, with a Romeo and Juliet story thrown in to sex things up. And although I watched the first 90 minutes of it before going to bed and leaving my TiVO to do the rest, I'm not certain I want to keep watching. Shoot, reload, repeat. This is already starting to get old. And it's only 1880--Cap Hatfield is still a young man!
Plus, I've always found Kevin Costner's acting method to be a bit odd. Between the mumbling and the Appalachian accent, he is hard to understand. Bill Paxton as McCoy is the much stronger character of the two.
LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)That earns an unrec from me. I'm as susceptible to schlock as the least resistant romanticist. I liked Bull Durham and Dances With Wolves, but I liked them in spite of Costner. He's not a draw.