and using the hate crime laws like that stinks of cheap political stuntery. Hate crimes are serious business and this could trivialize them.

Tempting as it is to try to nail Trump with cheap shots, this probably won't go anywhere.

As much as I dislike Trump, this is a massive stretch.

First of all, the complainant was the provocateur. Second, all he said was to remove him, which is justified at his own event. Third, Trump can afford a lot of lawyers.

BLM thinks it has special rights, that others don't have, and I doubt the court would uphold that. And frankly, the fact that this protester brought this up, tells me that BLM may be TRYING to PROVOKE somone into being subject to hate crime law -- such manipulation would not be legitimate in any way, shape, or form. The backlash on that becoming known would probably not be worth it.

And I agree 100% with post #1.

Don't forget. She was also a provocateur.

Did she demand that a bus take her somewhere other than its normal route?

my emphasis was on us history 1945 to the present. I do not have the source for this, but my understandings of those events are that Ms. Parks was one of several African American women doing that daily, looking to create that situation.

Which may make you think of that moment differently, if it was politically motivated. But she's still a heroine.

I don't need a degree to know that, and I lived US history during that time period so I don't need a degree in that either.

Claudette Colvin (born September 5, 1939) is a pioneer of the African American Civil Rights Movement. On March 2, 1955, she was the first person arrested for resisting bus segregation in Montgomery, Alabama, preceding the more publicized Rosa Parks incident by nine months.

For a long time, Montgomery's black leaders did not publicize Colvin's pioneering effort because she was a teenager who was pregnant and unmarried. Given the social norms of the time and her youth, the NAACP leaders worried about using her to represent their boycott.[1][2]

go to college. There is a huge difference between demonstrating against some thing that is wrong in the first place and beating a protester because you do not like what he is saying.

But it is not going to make any difference - money speaks.

BTW I have a minor in history and a major in sociology. The first thing I learned in college was it is the professors viewpoint you are learning not necessarily the truth.

Claudette Colvin (born September 5, 1939) is a pioneer of the African American Civil Rights Movement. On March 2, 1955, she was the first person arrested for resisting bus segregation in Montgomery, Alabama, preceding the more publicized Rosa Parks incident by nine months.

Shouting is being a provocateur? Or was it that he was the wrong skin color that was the provocation?

Trump is running for president not holding KKK rallies or white power church services, the man had every right to be at that campaign speech. The crowd had NO right to beat him up.

It was a hate crime. If the battered man had been white and shouted would the crowd have attacked? I seriously doubt it. If Trump had not encouraged the crowd would they have been so violent? Again I doubt it. The hate crime laws are merely laws and Not sacred runes to be tucked away and protected. They should be used as often as necessary.

If I were this battered man I would bring every law, every tool to prosecute the people who hit him and the man on stage who encouraged the beating. Bullies like that should not get away with their abuse.

been treated the same. I also disagree with the rest of your post. Exaggerating the facts doesn't make the reality of it bigger than it was. But if the guy wants to sue Trump that's up to him, and I'm sure it'll be interesting.

If you want an example of presidential primary violence against protesters, the 1968 Chicago convention is the bar for that (check some youtube footage). Let me know when thousands upon thousands of people are beaten bloody at an event, and not even by an individual candidate but by the cops themselves. Oh and... they were mostly white. I guess the cops didn't get the memo about their privilege.

Yeah, I know, who cares. Whatever.

This is like people jumping in front of a cab in order to create an accident case.

without someone complaining or filing charges. What's the world coming to? (By the way, I'm white so don't go blaming this on some innocent black person.)

You chose this video because it does 2 things. It shows white liberals getting beaten and it insults and denigrates the Democratic party. And since you are on a Democratic board you found this to be more relevant how?

It's interesting you chose this one to post and Not the civil rights protests where whites got beaten alongside black people. Or the Occupy protests where white and black people got beaten and pepper sprayed.

Yes, white liberals are frequently the targets of police and the oligarchs' power structure. The oligarchs are just as embedded in some of the Democratic organizations are they are all over conservative organisations.

But you ever notice how infrequently white RepubliCONS are targets???? Notice how rarely the KKK and the white supremacists are targets?

But let some white liberals or black folks step out of line and the white racists and RepubliCONS are there to beat them up, to put them in their place, to point out out how abused whites really are.

when they started beating the s**t out of him Trump didn't say anything to stop it, did he?

because what he was doing was disgusting.

Think what trump's fans did wasn't the result trump was looking for?

his or her right to free speech??????

You should delete your comment or clarify it.

and tried.

Does not automatically confer 'hate crime' status.

Stunts from someone who wants to be noticed...

And that is supposedly what happened. Trump won't be charged with shit but his goon squad should have already been arrested.

I honestly don't think telling people to "get him the hell out of there" can be construed as "beat him up".

Trumps such a big ass loser..Now he's on the hot seat for mocking a physically disabled reporter from

the NY Times. There appears to be no "low" to which he cannot go.

He should already have filed charges for the assault. If he was a white demonstrator and the attackers were black, the attackers would probably have been shot. He should also file a civil suit against Trump for damages. Surely there is an attorney who would love to take on Trump.

having a ghost writer pen a book he can call My Struggle! Trump's performance art, better known as his campaign, will continue to roll on until Trump tires of it. Meanwhile the rubes eat it up and he'll do and say whatever it takes to keep them enthralled. It's like watching Vince McMahon run for president and just as dignified as any WWF Wrestlemania production-and Trump's "fans" believe it's real. God only knows what marketing plan he has for after all of this over. His ego is like the carnivorous plant Audrey in Little Shop of Horrors. It keeps yelling "feed me!"

And it would serve as a chance to demonize the government even further, boosting his non-existent credibility.

about someone who disrupts a rally is clearly in no way a crime.

... Trump said, "Get him the hell out of here." He didn't tell those assholes to beat the shit of the guy, but neither did he tell them to stop after they decided to interpret his command as license to resort to violence. He compounded that error by publicly stating that maybe the guy deserved to get beat up.

So yes, Trump is complicit in the assault AND responsible for it. He deserves to be charged accordingly.

But, as he never tires of reminding us, he is RICH, so he'll get away with because he suffers from "Affluenza." I wish someone would take him to the woodshed and tune him up, but he is immune from answering for his actions.

harass him. Some of us surrounded him and peacefully backed him away from the crowd until no one could hear him. No beating necessary.

Of course we were more civilized back then.

On the other hand, the people that kicked, punched and insulted the man could easily be charged...and should.

Let's break the wall of entitlement. He did the crime, he does the time.

serious punishment. He will get the best lawyers in town to defend him. Lawyers that know how to manipulate the system.

Rich folks have their own "justice system" that's even more lenient than the politician's system or the police's system.

Not because I think what tRump did or said was acceptable in any way, but because prosecuting him would only make him more popular with his mouth-breather base. They'd see him as a martyr of the "PC left" and they'd adore him even more.

Trump is pandering to his base of idiots

opportunities. His hubris and accompanying clueless or unconscious mouth will continue to spew hatred. The appropriate event will emerge, no doubt.

It's only a matter of time that someone does get hurt at one of his Nuremb--oops -- I mean campaign rallies.

You can force someone to leave, you cannot beat them within an inch of their lives. Trump was in charge and gave an order, he did not give another order to stop his followers from assaulting the protester. He should be brought up on charges.

Yeah his big mouth did say that now did it? Inciting people to harm others and joking about it on national TV...or maybe it was not a joke.

Saying “get him the hell out of here” isn't encouraging anyone to beat him up, it's not the same as "Go beat him up!" Even if he did say that, he would have to say "Go beat up that black guy!" to be charged with a hate crime.

Seriously, if police were to look into this, all Trump would have to say was "When I said “get him the hell out of here” I meant for someone to show him the exit." You can not be charged with an imply, especially one as loose as “get him the hell out of here."

Trump is too stupid to work his way out of this without his army of lawyers imo.

will be the day after you see this:

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He could call for people to go out and murder and he'd still be untouchable and his brainless, baaing followers would love him all the more for it while setting out to follow Il Douche's orders.