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Here's the Planned Parenthood Attack Murderer (Original Post) malaise Nov 2015 OP
Well groomed. . B Calm Nov 2015 #1
Well, disheveled at the point...but look closer HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #5
the pictures of him leaving PP KT2000 Nov 2015 #32
I didn't see the other photos...his description had been old man 'wearing a hunting cap' HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #34
Agreed. jwirr Nov 2015 #35
He's got George Lucas beard n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #2
And here's the stochastic terrorst who sent him on his way. Scuba Nov 2015 #3
Yep - arrest that paid ReTHUG scumbag malaise Nov 2015 #4
So young to be so... 3catwoman3 Nov 2015 #15
Free speech be damned I guess n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #20
Lies that provoke violence.... Really?!? onecaliberal Nov 2015 #26
Even lies are protected speech SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #33
The job of the 4th Estate is to inform the citizenry, not spread lies violence and hate. Sorry. onecaliberal Nov 2015 #36
The First Amendment doesn't just apply to the press SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #40
Offs spare me. onecaliberal Nov 2015 #41
Spare you from what? SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2015 #42
Is That Jimmie-Boy? If so, you've got the wrong mug Vogon_Glory Nov 2015 #8
Ooops. Fixed, thanks. Scuba Nov 2015 #11
He's a lunatic. deathrind Nov 2015 #29
According to court records, Dear has an arrest record in both North and South Carolina. tencats Nov 2015 #6
Other than the animal cruelty--- trumad Nov 2015 #7
Plus animal cruelty is typically displayed by sociopaths. MoonRiver Nov 2015 #9
Good grooming habits for assassins, terrorists, and murderers. Buzz Clik Nov 2015 #10
liberal's wet dream enid602 Nov 2015 #12
Please add Ted Crud to your list. TIA n/t Hepburn Nov 2015 #19
It's everywhere... Contrary1 Nov 2015 #25
Thanks for putting this up..nt, k and r Stuart G Nov 2015 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #14
Never draw a free breath again madokie Nov 2015 #16
Same here malaise Nov 2015 #22
Hey, asshole...I don't support the death penalty, but... Hepburn Nov 2015 #17
Dad? ...Daaad? 951-Riverside Nov 2015 #18
Damn!!! malaise Nov 2015 #23
... napkinz Nov 2015 #21
Oh Dear!! malaise Nov 2015 #24
and where it happened... handmade34 Nov 2015 #27
Just looking at him I wouldn't sell him a gun n/t doc03 Nov 2015 #28
WHITE .... T R A S H man. HORRIBLE, JUST HORRIBLE. trueblue2007 Nov 2015 #30
just hurts my heart. death destruction. people hating, EVIL !!! trueblue2007 Nov 2015 #31
What is it about these white, fundie, armed to the teeth tea party types and their love for death? Rex Nov 2015 #37
They always have the same Charlie Manson hifiguy Nov 2015 #38
Well by now they all know the insanity defense line malaise Nov 2015 #39
Yes, they do, don't they. If I ran into a guy looking like that smirkymonkey Nov 2015 #43

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
5. Well, disheveled at the point...but look closer
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:24 AM
Nov 2015

and think about things like facial hair...

It's pretty clear that he recently trimmed his beard away from his mouth, as is hair in front of his ears where the beard meets the hair of his scalp.

The hair on his head isn't especially long, and suggests he's been to a barber in the past month.

If attempts are going to be made to use appearance as an indication of a problem, perhaps as in the way the old Axis 5 levels of social-psychological impairment did, this guy's grooming doesn't really suggest a long standing problem with capacity to fulfill functions of daily living as they relate to hair.



KT2000

(20,593 posts)
32. the pictures of him leaving PP
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:45 PM
Nov 2015

escorted by the police show him with neat hair. I wonder how and why his hair became messed up for the booking photo. This photo makes him look mentally deranged where the other one makes him look like somewhat of a normal person.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
34. I didn't see the other photos...his description had been old man 'wearing a hunting cap'
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:07 PM
Nov 2015

perhaps these better reveal some hat-head than other picture.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
33. Even lies are protected speech
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 04:52 PM
Nov 2015

Even lies that cause sick individuals to take violent actions.

Incitement to violence is a very specific charge, and right-wing talking heads spewing lies doesn't fit the bill.

onecaliberal

(32,931 posts)
36. The job of the 4th Estate is to inform the citizenry, not spread lies violence and hate. Sorry.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:40 PM
Nov 2015

There is no fucking way the founders intended for this shit going on now to pass as free speech.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
40. The First Amendment doesn't just apply to the press
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 08:58 PM
Nov 2015

It applies to everyone. Additionally, I suggest you educate yourself on the pamphlets that passed for newspapers in colonial times. The founders knew exactly what they were doing.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
42. Spare you from what?
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:24 PM
Nov 2015

Facts? Yeah, what a shame it would be to comment based on actual facts rather than emotion.

Vogon_Glory

(9,133 posts)
8. Is That Jimmie-Boy? If so, you've got the wrong mug
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:47 AM
Nov 2015

If that's James O'Keefe, you've got the wrong one. The guy directly responsible for those lying PP videos was David Daleiden.

I'm saying this for accuracy; I've no love for Jimmy-boy. I'd love to see accurate and usable evidence to take down Daleiden AND O'Keefe AND Lila Rose in state and federal courts.

tencats

(567 posts)
6. According to court records, Dear has an arrest record in both North and South Carolina.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:32 AM
Nov 2015
Authorities have identified the suspect in the mass shootings at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs as Robert Lewis Dear, 57. According to jail records, he's a 6-foot-4-inch, 250-pound white male. Photographs from the scene shows he has a beard. The sheriff's office has no mug shot posted currently.

He's being held on suspicion of killing three and wounding nine at the clinic busy with visitors on a snowy day the day after Thanksgiving. He has recently been a resident of Colorado, but also lived previously in South Carolina and North Carolina. Reporting on the first link, from Heavy, says:


According to court records, Dear has an arrest record in both North and South Carolina. He has been convicted of several traffic offenses, but has been arrested several times on more serious charges.

His convictions include seat belt violations, driver’s license violations, operating a vehicle in an unsafe mechanical condition and driving a non-registered vehicle.

Dear was charged in Colleton, South Carolina, with two counts of cruelty to animals in 2002, but was found not guilty in a bench trial.

He was also charged in 2002 in Colleton with charges of “peeping Tom” and eavesdropping. Those charges were dismissed.


Dear reportedly told officers he acted alone. His motivation or target has not been identified, but reports say he opened fire outside the clinic and then entered the building with rifle firing.

He does not appear to be from Syria.

http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2015/11/28/the-face-of-terrorism-in-america

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
9. Plus animal cruelty is typically displayed by sociopaths.
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 10:48 AM
Nov 2015

That's a personality disorder, and is never a successful defense. He knew exactly what he was doing, and enjoyed doing it, imo.

enid602

(8,659 posts)
12. liberal's wet dream
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 11:17 AM
Nov 2015

In the comments section under the CNN video of this story, a wingnut had written that he hoped the shooter wasn't white, as this would be a liberal's 'wet dream.' This guy is Timothy McVeigh, Cliven Bundy, Louie Gohmert, Archie Bunker and Joe Arpaio all rolled into one.


On edit, I'd have to add Wayne La Pierre and George Zimmerman. He's the Real McCoy!

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
25. It's everywhere...
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:24 PM
Nov 2015

At a well known right wingnut board, there was discussion that the shooter was "probably" black. When the mug shot was finally posted in that thread to prove that they were wrong, it shifted to "he could be a light-skinned black".

Response to malaise (Original post)

madokie

(51,076 posts)
16. Never draw a free breath again
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:44 PM
Nov 2015

and I hope he lives a long ass time. That to me would be punishment conducive to the crime. Death not so much.

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
17. Hey, asshole...I don't support the death penalty, but...
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 01:45 PM
Nov 2015

...if anyone should get it, it might be you!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
37. What is it about these white, fundie, armed to the teeth tea party types and their love for death?
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 05:41 PM
Nov 2015

Sick.

malaise

(269,222 posts)
39. Well by now they all know the insanity defense line
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:17 PM
Nov 2015

whether they're insane or not. You'd have to be crazy to carry out terrorist acts regardless of religion. That is what pisses me off. A relative of one of the attackers in France said her brother was a petty criminal who had been to prison. Said she has no memory of him visiting a Mosque. My problem is that we use lone wolf and crazy only for white terrorists. Apparently only white men are crazy, but everyone else is a terrorist. It's bullshit.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
43. Yes, they do, don't they. If I ran into a guy looking like that
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:41 AM
Nov 2015

in the street I would scream and run the other way. How do they go undetected in normal society?

I don't know, I guess he doesn't look like your average Bostonian, but where the hell is someone like this actually normal looking? He looks like a complete psycho to me.

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