They will tell us when they can.

Edited to remove the snark. I apologize for writing that. I am frustrated by this all, want to know also, and apologize for taking it out on you.

unlike the first reply to a simple op.
Why do people on these forums have to try to be the first to jump down someone's throat?
For crying out loud.

about 24 hours after the event ended. I think asking such a thing so soon is ridiculous.

It will probably be next week. The 2 others killed could be from out of state, and only have Air Force ID on them or maybe the wife of an AF person who is out of country. Any number of infinite possibilities in that type of community.

Notification of family.
If a PP employee or volunteer, make sure it's ok to release their names so to not target their families.
If a PP patient, privacy rules. Though PP said their staff and patients were all alive.
Thanksgiving weekend slows thing down as staffing is less.
There is no need for us to know the names, demanding them and calling it ridiculous that we don't know is unneeded, intrustive.

Why did I jump, be snarky? Because I tire of "we deserve to know now" mentality, because I've been both a PP patient and a volunteer over the years and take it personally when asses (not meaning the OP but the greater world) try to limit women's reproductive rights and healthcare by terrorism, because I quit such a job due to lack of security, because PP has cautioned ascribing motives at this point and my pointing that out has gotten me called names. Because it's the first thanksgiving being an orphan as well as being physically hurt, unable to do my old job and freaking out about how to make it financially even minimally due to being hurt and my age.

Still. All that aside, I should not have replied with snark and apologize for doing so. I try to post rationally and informatively and I failed. Thank you for calling me on it, seriously. I edited and apologized and am sorry.

murderous, right wing news circus. Just think, reporters on the lawn, news reporters setting up cameras, microphones in the faces of anyone coming or going.

for that information

patients, privacy is understandable.

.. and sack cloth, and very public lamentations. They're not really dead if you don't know their names and can't google up their social media profiles and analyze their high school team mascots and grade school crushes.

Fucking ghoulish. Give it a goddamned break, eh?

Seriously, some here are trying to sell that BS. You would think after years of epic failure they would give it up. Sigh.

Just wait malaise, someone will come along and spoonfeed you the information.

Colorado law - after the autopsies on Monday. That makes sense.

I was wondering if someone else was involved, since this guy was really trying hard to live off the grid and go unnoticed. What changed in him to want to be noticed and become infamous?

hours ago.

None of their staff or their patients were killed. He shot some people in the parking lot, maybe that's who was killed. I saw on CNN they were interviewing a woman who was in the clinic for a prenatal check up with her boyfriend. When they saw the man with the gun in the parking lot through a window he ran out of the building and she was ushered to safety by PP staff. She said that she never saw him again. She has contacted the hospitals but he wasn't there. I fear he was one of those killed but since they are not married the police won't give her answers.

According to the NYT earlier today, the names will be released Monday, after autopsies.

There's this thing about respecting family privacy at a time when they are undoubtedly going through some tragedy.

Don't ask me why they released the policeman's name soon. I have no idea. But I imagine being a cop might have something to do with it.

They released the cop's name

story to be about his bravery rather than the Christian terrorism angle.

Most likely the police department is the one that release the cop's name (after the family was notified).

His family should have the room to process it too.

But I'm sure that's not your angle.

This afternoon they interviewed a pregnant PP patient who went to the center with her boyfriend for an ultrasound. He left the facility to get the car, while she was about to walk outside herself when the shooting started. One of the staff said that someone was shooting outside, and when this patient looked out the window, she could see him with his weapon.

She hid inside an unlocked room, and a bullet actually went through the wall while the shooter was in the hallway. He never entered the room where she and another lady were hiding.

She texted her boyfriend during the shooting, but he never replied. She has not spoken with him since, and neither has his sister. The sister phoned his #, and someone picked up, said nothing, and then hung up.

Combine this with a witness outside who saw the shooter shoot a car that was driving by, where the driver fell out of the vehicle bleeding profusely.

According to the girlfriend, police have not given her or his sister any information, this was as of today. I do find that repulsive, if true, and also very curious that they are singularly focused on the cop who was killed.

I'm willing to bet that the families have not been notified, otherwise word of their names would have surely leaked by now. I think it's a certainty that this patient's boyfriend is sadly one of them.

That poor family and his pregnant girlfriend

(unless the family decides to do so themselves)

and thinking we MUST not allow this to become routine

Either shootings or attacks of PP, both must be protested loudly, and I want to see ALL repubs running for the WH to come out and strongly denounce this shit

Have they yet?

I know our side has...

The silence is deafening...crickets

were proven to be a lie

I want her to be arrested for conspiracy to commit murder, until we take those kind of drastic steps, these vile fucks wont be stopped

It is said this shooter said "no more baby parts"

as a result of the same deceptive lying video. Remember to follow the money. Yes it is about hating women but they use religion and ideology to loot the money and hand it over to RW incompetents at the expense of social programs for the poor.

not have been involved with this case, but he started it all.

If anyone ever need an ass kicking...

Sickening - they must pay

Just saying.

Anyone who was killed by this scum is a victim but...


Guns kill people.

Imagine finding out your family member was dead by the news.

it took more than a week for his name to show up in the paper. The family was all a little too busy to return phone calls from reporters asking if it was ok to print his name.

I just recoiled in shock at your post. I can't imagine the pain for you and your family



I hope you've found some comfort and peace in your memories and have a strong circle of love at this time...

Yeah, it was pretty shocking. My brother was going across town to pick up a lawnmower, and just happened to pull up to the wrong corner.

I can't speak as to why the other names were not released.