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Triana

(22,666 posts)
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:47 AM Nov 2015

The Face of Homegrown American Terrorism - "Uniquely American"



Yet the main stream media are going out of their way to NOT call it what it is! Media at worst describe him as "an itinerant loner who left behind a trail of disputes and occasionally violent acts toward neighbors and women he knew." -- but NEVER as a terrorist.

He's white. He's "Christian". He was raised with all the RWNJ teachings. And, obviously influenced by the fake PP video put out by other terrorists and with the approval of other RWNJs and their political candidates, he attacked a PP clinic in Colorado Springs. He was a RW extremist driven by RW extremist teachings under the usual guise of "Christianity". No different than a Muslim extremist driven by Muslim extremist teachings under the usual guise of "Islam". But Mr. Dear is not Muslim. He's white and American and therefore NOT (in the media's twisted and hypocritical vernacular) a terrorist. He commits the same type of acts for the same reasons but because he's not a refugee, a Syrian or other dark-skinned "foreigner", he's absolved of the term.

The whole world notices that the US has a domestic terrorism problem. Most of the US citizenry notices it too, except the domestic terrorists themselves who just huck it up and backslap about it. Yet somehow and for some reason the rest of us are supposed to ignore that we have a domestic terrorism problem -- whilst we refuse to let refugees FROM terrorism elsewhere into our country, claiming THEY are the problem.

Well isn't that just "uniquely American"? I think so.
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The Face of Homegrown American Terrorism - "Uniquely American" (Original Post) Triana Nov 2015 OP
that mugshot just makes me cringe. Every time I open riversedge Nov 2015 #1
There seems to be a weird desire to promote his race and religion oberliner Nov 2015 #2
I think it's important to see the contrast and important to understand that mountain grammy Nov 2015 #4
That is a reasonable point oberliner Nov 2015 #6
Yes. mountain grammy Nov 2015 #19
Because there's this wee little thing called.... paleotn Nov 2015 #5
Yes, that much is clear oberliner Nov 2015 #9
To call attention to the double standard. gcomeau Nov 2015 #7
I do get that oberliner Nov 2015 #10
There is no other way to reach the wingnuts. crim son Nov 2015 #17
Fair enough oberliner Nov 2015 #18
Oberliner, I think you keep asking the same question pangaia Nov 2015 #24
There seems to be a strange desire by a few to not talk about his race or religion. Rex Nov 2015 #11
I haven't seen that desire expressed oberliner Nov 2015 #13
And we do that all the time. Yet some are trying to be like Foxnews and suppress this one case Rex Nov 2015 #14
I have seen no such suppression oberliner Nov 2015 #15
It is all over the place in the news. They are making a great effort not to talk about this guy Rex Nov 2015 #16
Oh, I thought you meant on DU oberliner Nov 2015 #20
Haven't really seen that on DU at all. Rex Nov 2015 #21
Because people who fear Muslims and dark-skinned people need to consider MH1 Nov 2015 #25
k and r nashville_brook Nov 2015 #3
Faces of Meth? Facility Inspector Nov 2015 #8
That is the first thing I thought too when I saw the pics. Rex Nov 2015 #12
Wouldn't he be thin? nt valerief Nov 2015 #23
not necessarily Facility Inspector Nov 2015 #26
... napkinz Nov 2015 #22
kick napkinz Nov 2015 #27

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
1. that mugshot just makes me cringe. Every time I open
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:54 AM
Nov 2015

a thread talking of the shooting--it stares me in the face. scary and repulsive.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
2. There seems to be a weird desire to promote his race and religion
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:56 AM
Nov 2015

It seems to be exactly what the right wingers do when such acts are committed by people who are not white and not Christian.

Why be like them?

mountain grammy

(26,624 posts)
4. I think it's important to see the contrast and important to understand that
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:02 PM
Nov 2015

the ideology behind political violence and terrorism comes in all shades and religions. Planned Parenthood is a medical facility providing health care to women, and for that reason is under attack in America. It's critical to identify those behind the attacks, even the public figures who incite others to act for them. If they happen to be mostly white and Christian, so be it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. That is a reasonable point
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:03 PM
Nov 2015

Do you feel the same way with regard to identifying the ideology of Islam the role that it plays in political violence and terrorism?

mountain grammy

(26,624 posts)
19. Yes.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:40 PM
Nov 2015

The blessings of an imaginary almighty seems to be all that's required to wreak mayhem and terror.

paleotn

(17,931 posts)
5. Because there's this wee little thing called....
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:03 PM
Nov 2015

hypocrisy. Right wing christian types in America are a textbook definition of the term. You know, the people who wail and scream about Islamic Sharia law supposedly "comin' to Amurca", yet stop at nothing to impose there own version of Christian sharia on the rest of us. And there's that whole homegrown, Christian terrorists thing, while proclaiming in shrill voices that all Muslims are terrorists, even 5 year old orphans. In that context, the Op is easy to understand, don't you think?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. Yes, that much is clear
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:07 PM
Nov 2015

But do we really want to do the same sort of thing that the right-wing does?

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
7. To call attention to the double standard.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:03 PM
Nov 2015

It's kind of important, and it's not being "like them".

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. I do get that
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:08 PM
Nov 2015

There is definitely a double standard. And a lot of these points are meant to highlight that. But sometimes it seems like folks are doing the same thing that right-wingers do with respect to Muslims.

crim son

(27,464 posts)
17. There is no other way to reach the wingnuts.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:26 PM
Nov 2015

Exposing their hypocrisy, shaming them, is something they might understand. For that reason I support highlighting the race and religion of our domestic terrorists and I care not one whit that some people might therefore compare me to a republican.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. Fair enough
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:28 PM
Nov 2015

But don't we become the hypocrites if we emphasize the race and religion in some cases but not in others?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
24. Oberliner, I think you keep asking the same question
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 01:56 PM
Nov 2015

over and over, when people give you their answer.
So in a way, you are 'both' right.
Yes, we may 'act like; RWingers but.... but...well, I'll stop.. to avoid the copy and paste reply..

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
11. There seems to be a strange desire by a few to not talk about his race or religion.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:09 PM
Nov 2015

How odd they have special rules for this case.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
13. I haven't seen that desire expressed
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:11 PM
Nov 2015

I think it is important to talk about his race or religion in the same way that we would talk about the race or religion of a terrorist attacker who was non-white and Muslim.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. And we do that all the time. Yet some are trying to be like Foxnews and suppress this one case
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:14 PM
Nov 2015

and one can only be left to wonder why? We talk about other terrorists, I guess this guys skin color and belief system has something to do with it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
15. I have seen no such suppression
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:17 PM
Nov 2015

I think the conversations about his race and religious have been numerous and enlightening.

It will be interesting once his statements to the police are fully released (if they ever are) and we get an even more complete picture of this person and his motives.

Most likely it will then become clear that the RW hate machine against Planned Parenthood played a major role in this terrorist attack.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
16. It is all over the place in the news. They are making a great effort not to talk about this guy
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:18 PM
Nov 2015

so one is left to wonder why he is different than all their other stories about terrorists.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
20. Oh, I thought you meant on DU
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:44 PM
Nov 2015

I spend a lot more time reading things here than I do on "the news" so I may have a warped perspective.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
21. Haven't really seen that on DU at all.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 12:46 PM
Nov 2015

Maybe some, but then I remember people see things differently and are not my clone. Have to bite my tounge and remember that at times.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
25. Because people who fear Muslims and dark-skinned people need to consider
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 02:30 PM
Nov 2015

that they are afraid of the wrong people.

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