Sure a lot of jerks will live to be 120 but I also will live to be 120. So it's a net win.

Bryant

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in the case of overpopulation, longer life and healthspan tends to lead to lower birth rates and population growth (look at Europe vs Africa)

There's a total eclipse of the sun I want to see.

Of course, I am currently in excellent health and have an adequate income, which may not be the case with you.

a little unfinished home with me and 2 cats and a lab for a family.

will live like shit for 60 years isn't true.

I hope it's not true in your case, but most people are quite healthy until about 1-10 years before the end. My now almost 94 year old grandmother was quite fit at 80, it's just now that it seems like the beginning of the end. The lady that lived until 122 was riding a bike and whatnot every day at over 100.

I remember a video of this dude walking around - no cane or walker at about 105-107 I wish I could still find it (he was 107 in this video):

until early this year. Respiratory doc can not figure out why I am not in the hospital, neither can my cardiologist. They tell me what ever you are doing, keep doing it. But I think I am going to have a heart cath done to see if something could be going on there. I hope a couple of stents might be what I need.

I found out that you don't really out grow childhood diseases, they have a tendency to come back later in life. And that is what I am finding out. Just have to remember what I used to do to overcome them.

I can offer nothing but good wishes, which aren't worth shit, I know. And a few virtual hugs.

suposed to live more than 6 weeks. So anything passed that is doing alright. Back in 93 when I broke my leg and everything went south I realized I was going to be poor. So I just planned that way. Built my house out of available cash and got it in the dry and half way nice for $7,500. 600 sq feet ends up being cheap to heat and cool. Just not where I planned to be back in my 20's and 30's. I made good money but what kind of money sense does a 20-30 year old have. I really believe if you can decide that you are going to be poor and not rich that you can make a few plans. Me and my pets live pretty cheap. Just can't afford to make any mistakes.

one day at a time.

Just place yourself anywhere on a TIGHT line between Portland, OR and Charleston, SC on August 21, 2017, and you'll witness the most spectacular eclipse the U.S. has ever seen. That line is defined in the image below and in the resources provided. (In the U.S. we get another in 2024 that will cross the U.S. from Texas to Maine.)

I will be in Grand Island, Nebraska, on that day.

Resources:

http://www.greatamericaneclipse.com/
http://www.eclipse2017.org/2017/path_through_the_US.htm
http://www.greatamericaneclipse.com/
http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/solar/2017-august-21
http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/observing-news/planning-workshop-for-2017-solar-eclipse-082620155/
http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/observing-news/americans-will-see-total-solar-eclipse-in-2017/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_August_21,_2017

already knows I'm visiting him that week. Totality will be just a bit south of Portland. The weather gods had better give me clear skies that day.

The eclipse in 2045 is one I'd love to live to see because totality will last, brace yourself, SIX FULL MINUTES! OMG! My sons both know that if I'm still alive and not so ga-ga I don't know my own name, they are obligated to make sure I see it. So everyone who reads this, do the math on your current age, and do your best to see that one if you're around.

...be 80 in 2045 and it would be cool to have seen three in my life, and all in the last 30+ of it.

I like it when I tell someone in their 20's about the 2045 eclipse. Right now, the thirty years feels like forever to them, but most of them, in the normal course of events, will be around to see it.

What's been interesting about deciding to hang on to see that eclipse, is that my sense of how long I'll live has expanded tremendously. I used to figure I'd make it to my early 80's, like most of my relatives, but no longer. Of course, we all go sometime, and 97 is a pretty ambitious goal, but ya gotta have goals in life, right?

And if I make it into my 90's, and I'm getting close to 97, I'll tack on another, slightly more distant goal. Maybe a simple making it to my 100th birthday will do.

That way, I have an excuse to be spry and healthy at 97.

I'm pretty spry and annoyingly healthy at 67. I can still do head stands. And touch my toes easily.

added on edit: I know I look and behave like someone much younger, by how shocked most people are when I tell them my age.

I hope to be doing headstands to the very end.

I will mark my calendar now. (And I'll make sure I get eclipse glasses).

If we think Social Security and Medicare are in trouble now, just wait. Or the age to start collecting SS or be on Medicare will need to be raised to about 95.

I will say, that brief article really doesn't say much. Even if that drug works as described, it won't change anyone's already existing pathologies. One more example of something being held up as something it really isn't.

... if jobs are available, if we stop giving our jobs to H1B visa holders and to overseas shops.

Medicare age should be lowered. To zero.

Ask your doctor when you run into him at the 19th hole.

If so, for Type II, you might be interested in the news regarding our panecreas:

Type 2 diabetes reversed by losing fat from pancreas

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151201141231.htm

He ended all my diabetes meds, and my blood sugar stays in the 120's to 130's.

I lost about 20lbs from my initial diagnosis to the blood test that said I was no longer diabetic.

After 2 years I'm still no longer diabetic.

definitely not interested in looking in a mirror and seeing a little, shriveled up raisin with boobs dragging on the ground looking back.

Maybe higher. They're talking about nearly a 50% increase in life expectancy. So, if it's 66 or so now, we talking 97 or 98 years old.

Which means one would have to work, even with diligent savings, until around 90.

No thanks.

will it also delay conditions such as Alzheimers? Would you want to live the last 40 years of your life as an Alzheimer patient. And who would foot the cost?

body aging.

Those who get cancer young or fairly young generally get it because of a mutation or toxin.

Essentially everyone is on the path to developing a heart attack, stroke, diabetes, alzheimer's, and cancer at the same time. It's just which one gets you first.

Metformin and a few other drugs should help to delay this process. You might still get Alzheimer's but you'll get it at 105 instead of 85.

there are already more humans using more resources than the planet can really support.

Does anyone say well, we have enough technology, no need for more. No. We even force new technologies, even when they're not really needed, just to be able to say we've progressed.

I imagine if we can allow more people to live to 120, we will. If nothing else, human beings are very good at breaking or getting around limits. If the planet is indeed finite, we're going to always have problems because of that, but we're not that much different than corporations in relation to government regulation. We find the loopholes. We try to write the rules that govern us. We privatize the profits of the planet, and socialize the costs to the rest of life.

Most companies start weeding out people once they hit 50 years old. Can you imagine having to support yourself for an extra 50 or 60 years without a job?

longevity advances and such will benefit the very rich, not anyone else.

i always wondered why the very wealthy, despite their billions, were so insistent upon earning more, more, more. now i know.

Since it might benefit the rich?

Where do we draw the line?

drug we'd have to eventually start INCREASING population through incentives for child birth or cloning or something.

That the people with access to this are bound to be the globe's biggest over-consumers, the problem just compounds.

Civilization is the deadliest of all social diseases.

Infinite gain in victory or finite loss in defeat.

No brainer.

I've seen this in the movies. Doesn't end well...

... and yet no one can figure out how to stop (or at least slow) the inevitable march towards death? "

No, I never think that. I think it's far more reasonable to be able to communicate with radio waves than fundamentally change the lives of humans. This writer is shit. In his first sentence, he lets me know he's nothing like me, and probably an idiot.

a foreign pharmacy. I also give it to my cats (I measured out the dosage by kg of body weight compared to me, ground up some pills, and put them in the blender with water). They are getting a dose per kg about equivalent to myself.

I'm probably also going to try combining it with Rapamycin.

or do you jut like experimenting with anti-aging drugs?

Is it safe?

transgender, long since transitioned... this seems irrelevant but has taught me some about experimenting with medications.

Take a small dose at first, check for bad reactions/side effects and slowly ramp up.

Metformin is given to people with PCOS and obesity (non-diabetic) as well. It's a relatively safe drug.

These are some skills I know nothing about.

I don't know that I'd trust that drugs ordered from a foreign pharmacy were what I'd ordered. Heck, even here, most herbal supplements aren't what they're supposed to be.

other things.

If they helped me grow boobs I don't think they're selling bad shit... unless their estrogen is fine but their metformin is crap.

Also, sites like that tend to get blacklisted if they sell shitty products. It's not perfect I know but I'm not going to get a doc to prescribe me metformin

about the "grandeur" of longer life.

First is our fear of death, we fear it soooo much that we even demonize it and waste untold resources on trying to eliminate it, except when we get all self-righteous and decide to kill people over some idea. Death is a component of the natural cycle, we just refuse to accept it.

Then there is the assumption that extending life has some benefit to someone somewhere because... why not?

We also seem to fantasize a world where all the struggles of humanity can be resolved if we can thwart death because we have fooled ourselves into thinking that death is wrong and that if we could just control nature we'd have some Utopian world here on planet 3.


As a species that have proven to be the most adaptable, or close to it, we can't get our fecal matter together enough to resolve our current problems of inequality and injustice with the population on hand. But let's make sure that everybody can stick around longer because we can.

And then I have one question... Would you want the kochheads to live that f'ing long to plaque us with more of the same as we are currently enduring, or Chrumps or (insert name of horrid oligarch/dictator here)?




I'm not quite 60 and I feel like I'm just doing time toiling away at survival in the most spartan fashion until I "get lucky" and have a chance to transform into a different form of matter.

I just think that I don't want to watch, I'm old and I couldn't venture a guess as to how we get our selves together enough to deal with our problems. This isn't something you can legislate into reality. Society has to change and that's a monumental task with a lot of moving parts.

be fine after that.

and by my count, we are in the vicinity of 550 years so I'm thinking we're a little overdue.

I'd prefer that to more years tacked on at the end. My knees already hurt.

But no bloody WAY would I want to prolong my life to 120--healthy or not.

I want to retire in 5 years and enjoy the fruits of my labors. Don't wanna worry that I can't afford myself cuz I'm literally living beyond my means!

(I know, I know, A Song of Ice and Fire).

Spoiler alert: After Danerys finally claims the Iron Throne, Westeros is invaded from space by an army of Gungans and plucky 8 year olds.

I approve.

Actually, this is about the last piece that makes it all come far too true.

You know, that old brain all crinkled and wrinkled and stuff.

I'd post a scene from Star Trek "Spock's Brain" here if I didn't think everybody here would be utterly insulted by the worst Star Trek episode ever, except the scene when Bones exclaims how difficult it is to reconnect a brain.





Well, alright! Here it is... condensed, like evaporated milk... And apparently like Spock's brain and the writers of this episode.

Even small woodland creatures should be nervous at that point.

Metformin was discovered before injectable insulin, 80or 90 years ago.

Lots of people take it.

That's why. Not the cost of the pills.

to get what they want.

Of course, they can always end Social Security. Like the GOP always threaten.

There's not even a copay.

Full price is $66 for 90 days' worth.

No need for SS since everyone will have good health up till they die.

.......as long as I die on Tuesday!

and are people really so arrogant that they are too important to die after having lived an ordinary life span?

I once knew a woman who was in her late 90s. When she heard of someone living to be over 100, she said "oh that poor woman!" She understood the details of it. Most of her friends were dead, she couldn't relate to TV or music very well, and since she was too frail to have much of a life beyond her small apartment she was really really bored.

Not unless I can live peacefully in the jungle somewhere. Otherwise...HELL NO!

Just kidding, working people will never be able to afford it.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.